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View Poll Results: What Lever You Flippin??
Yes 16 14.16%
No 16 14.16%
I don't live in Jackson County, but would vote Yes 59 52.21%
I don't live in Jackson County, but would vote No 22 19.47%
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Old 03-28-2024, 08:28 AM  
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Stadium Watch 2024 -Jackson County Residents: How Are You Voting?

Vote in this poll if you actually live in Jackson county.

We've all shared our opinions in the other thread. But who gives a shit what somebody in Platte County or Johnson County or Phoenix or NYC thinks. We're all just noise.
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Old 06-05-2024, 10:12 AM   #1741
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People actually think tailgating is staying?

It'll probably be the first thing that's eliminated in order to turn those free meal tickets into profits at the bar in some chain store bbw place the team controls. The new stadium and game day experience will completely overhaul the game day crowd as well. You coal burning heathens will be charged extra for the very back corner of some lot because you're a fire hazard and drink too much free beer.
Because you'd be fool to not have the opportunity to draw eight figure lawsuits by allowing uncontrolled alcohol consumption in a parking lot preceeding an event.
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Old 06-05-2024, 10:16 AM   #1742
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People actually think tailgating is staying?

It'll probably be the first thing that's eliminated in order to turn those free meal tickets into profits at the bar in some chain store bbw place the team controls. The new stadium and game day experience will completely overhaul the game day crowd as well. You coal burning heathens will be charged extra for the very back corner of some lot because you're a fire hazard and drink too much free beer.
Wait, free beer? Is there someplace I can get beer and liquor for free without paying anything including taxes?
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Old 06-05-2024, 10:17 AM   #1743
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Remember five head having to quiet the crowd before the snap. Yeah that's the crowd you have at high-end venues
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Old 06-05-2024, 10:24 AM   #1744
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Remember five head having to quiet the crowd before the snap. Yeah that's the crowd you have at high-end venues

The imagination of Chiefs fans never ceases to amaze me. Why move the stadium? I mean aside from all the reasons. Did you already forget about that time in the 90s when it was loud? For shame. It will never be loud again! Not with the wine and cheese Overland Park fans that certainly never went to Chiefs games before! The Kingdom is built on George Brett Statue Fights. Anything else is gentrified fake fandom. Might as well put an On The Border in the stadium because this is fake Tex Mex from a chain.
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Old 06-05-2024, 10:25 AM   #1745
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Wait, free beer? Is there someplace I can get beer and liquor for free without paying anything including taxes?
Get better friends.
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Old 06-05-2024, 10:35 AM   #1746
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They know the building costs, share the ticket pricing as well with each plan
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Old 06-05-2024, 10:36 AM   #1747
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Get better friends.
That's just drinking my friend's beer. I doubt any of my friends no a place where they can get beer for free without paying any money, including sales taxes.
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Old 06-05-2024, 11:01 AM   #1748
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I wish this had more info but once the bill goes through it's final revision I imagine it will be posted here.
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Old 06-05-2024, 11:02 AM   #1749
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Congratulations to the "No" voters. You're getting what you wanted.

Unless they thought voting "No" meant they would get a chance to vote on something else in the future.

Goodbye, hundreds of millions in earnings taxes over the next 3 decades.
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Old 06-05-2024, 11:08 AM   #1750
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I do think it was pretty telling that everyone expects Missouri to make a counter-offer in light of Kansas' bill.

This Tarwater guy seemed pretty unconcerned that Missouri would put together something in time that competes.

Just weird for Missouri to say they don't want the Chiefs to build all these accompaning structures around the stadium and Kansas was like hell we have nothing but wide open space in every direction go nuts!

I think if Missouri was capable of getting their shit together they would have made a Star Bonds bill in the first place.

People should buy land in Wyandotte if you have extra cash for an investment imo
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Old 06-05-2024, 11:32 AM   #1751
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I just don't know what people expected here, the Truman Sports Complex is a relic at this point, those are some of the oldest stadiums in their respective leagues.

It makes little sense to keep redoing them and not build new. It also makes little sense for either of those teams to want to stay in that shitty location.
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Old 06-05-2024, 11:34 AM   #1752
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Wait, free beer? Is there someplace I can get beer and liquor for free without paying anything including taxes?
Just wait for a riot to break out
Profit.
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Old 06-05-2024, 12:41 PM   #1753
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Congratulations to the "No" voters. You're getting what you wanted.

Unless they thought voting "No" meant they would get a chance to vote on something else in the future.

Goodbye, hundreds of millions in earnings taxes over the next 3 decades.
Frankly I’m glad the voters did vote no, if it means we’re gonna eventually get two brand new stadiums in a better location with all the amenities.

Having visited KC and catching a couple games this past weekend, I definitely got a little romantic about the good ol days and remembering all the games I’ve seen at the K over the past 40+ years, but ultimately, it’s way past time to move on. They’re both lovely stadiums with a lot to like about them, but there’s PLENTY to upgrade. Just getting out of that part of town would be a step in the right direction. Lot of people holding on too tight. Change is inevitable.
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Old 06-05-2024, 12:49 PM   #1754
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I just don't know what people expected here, the Truman Sports Complex is a relic at this point, those are some of the oldest stadiums in their respective leagues.

It makes little sense to keep redoing them and not build new. It also makes little sense for either of those teams to want to stay in that shitty location.
It would make sense for the Chiefs to stay there if they get to take over the whole thing and do whatever they want to do with the footprint. Football needs open spaces/footprint, and that spot gives it to them.

It makes zero sense for the Royals to be there. It doesn't need open spaces. (in fact, it is better for baseball to be more connected/close to high-employment areas because of the connection between employers, season-ticket groupings, ease of access directly after work, etc.).

I'm still hopeful the Royals, at least, will stay in KCMO proper.

It will suck for KCMO to lose 1% on 2/18 of the NFL salary cap 8 times a year, though. That's a lot of money to make up, and those "thriving businesses" in the Crossroads sure as **** don't do it on their own.

Between the two teams and the way players (just players, not even including any staff) are taxed, you're talking about $5M in KC 1% earnings tax on a yearly basis.
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Old 06-05-2024, 12:50 PM   #1755
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Remember five head having to quiet the crowd before the snap. Yeah that's the crowd you have at high-end venues
They're already pricing most of that crowd out now...
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