***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Ninerfan11]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

this is a medical and health pandemic. We can’t fix the economy without mitigating the pandemic.

yeah, the best person on the Planet to help us get out of this mess. So, why is he getting the hate?

He's been brutally wrong and completely lied about WHO and Tedros. Again, a medical and moral failure...not political

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by ghak99

I don't understand the argument either.

He, of all people, had to have known what one proven case in the US actually meant. Hell, anyone with a basic understanding of how a virus works knew what it actually meant. The statement is just odd, especially coming from him.

He might have have instructed to say it in that manner.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

You are completely contradictory.

And you're being a dick.

We all know why Fauci said it wasn't a problem in January.

We also know that China didn't fully disclose the extent of the disease back in November.

It's best to drop it.

[Bowser]

18 people banned from this thread. That HAS to be a record.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Bowser

18 people banned from this thread. That HAS to be a record.

What's the fatality rate?

[Monticore]

Raise your hand if you have never been wrong.Let alone on predicting a pandemic that started on the other side of the world in a country known for sending out misinformation.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by Monticore

He might have have instructed to say it in that manner.

He could have been.

If you assume he was given strict orders, it makes arguing "he was right" quite strange though.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by srvy

Nothing wrong with anything jdubya said fresh thinking and fresh minds should be welcomed. We may discover the next brilliant mind that gets this thing licked. Dr. Fauci is in his 80s it could be slipping upstairs and I am sure he probably has young fresh minds in the backgrounding do most the work.

Instead, we have the same handful of non-political coronavirus junkies posting day and night with the same boring comments thinking they have all the answers and know it all because Dr Fausi said so. They skirt the edges of political posts then cry bloody murder when they think someone did what they constantly do.

[dirk digler]

A doctor taking out a corona virus patient to watch the sunset humanity of the highest rank #COVID2019 pic.twitter.com/5mXK4NvpWR

— Wayne Joel🇰🇪 (@manoahwayne4) April 4, 2020

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by ghak99

He could have been.

If you assume he was given strict orders, it makes arguing "he was right" quite strange though.

There might of been many reasons why he said it , we have no clue making assumptions that it was all him is probably not accurate.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Bowser

18 people banned from this thread. That HAS to be a record.

You’ve missed a few.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by ghak99

My nieces and nephew are missing their friends as well. Snap chat and every other app under the sun just isn't the same.

We did reverse donuts in the golf cart until their faces hurt from laughter and none of us could stand this evening. Hopefully it bought their mother a few hours of peace tonight.

Nice

[jerryaldini]

Instead of a season the nfl could take a clue from those Brett Farve, Jerry Rice copper fit commercials. Have Mahomes throwing balls to Kelce and Tyreek against a rotating group of six Planeteers. Throw in some globetrotters gags. I'd pay to watch that.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Maybe if we both live through this I'll make the trip down there to one of your awesome tailgates. My daughter in Cape Coral wants to do it but thinks the heat of September would kill me. WTH are all our games in FL that early in the season?

either the Miami or Tampa Bay game will be later in the season. The teams have no clue as of last week.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Wtf? People just started having oral sex in the past few years?

Fear not everyone, Pat Robertson has worked out what caused the Coronavirus; oral sex! With women! Which they didn't have when he was younger! pic.twitter.com/gC41NthO9W

— self-isolated bee �� (@soapachu) April 5, 2020

Pat Robertson has always been on of the most ignorant person on the planet.