***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by jdubya

I never said he is not. I suggested he share his lead role. To be fair Dr. Fauci cut his teeth on the AIDS virus as a young up and coming 30 year old and was cutting edge. He is now in his 70`s and has sat comfortably in the arms of the NIH and served multiple presidents. All I am suggesting is that it is possible he could use some help from the private sector and elsewhere. (hopefully he is and we just dont see it). I havent lost faith in him but he has made a couple of concerning remarks regarding public policy and the economy that makes me flinch a bit and he may be swerving out of his lane at times...so to speak.

this is a medical and health pandemic. We can’t fix the economy without mitigating the pandemic.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Because he's probably the most renowned public health official on earth when we're in the middle of the biggest public health crisis of our lifetime.

The arrogance of your posts...

yeah, the best person on the Planet to help us get out of this mess. So, why is he getting the hate?

[Dartgod]

Sorry guys, I'm not seeing anything political about jdubya's posts. That said, I absolutely do not enter the DC forum unless absolutely necessary, so maybe I'm missing something?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Sorry guys, I'm not seeing anything political about jdubya's posts. That said, I absolutely do not enter the DC forum unless absolutely necessary, so maybe I'm missing something?

Yes. Certain fringers think that Dr. Fauci is a globalist fascist with an agenda. Blah blah blah.

Oh, and don't tase me, bro. You asked.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Sorry guys, I'm not seeing anything political about jdubya's posts. That said, I absolutely do not enter the DC forum unless absolutely necessary, so maybe I'm missing something?

its an extreme right wing talking point and conspiracy theory gaining a lot of ground.

The deep state, in this case Dr. Fauci wants the economy to suck on purpose to get the President removed in November.

Which is laughable. Who has more knowledge and a longer public health record than Dr. Fauci? He’s worked for every President since Regan.

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

the president has no business pushing an unproven drug from the White House podium. It’s dangerous. People, dumbasses but still human beings, have already died trying to get this “miracle drug” into them. Pushing people to give their doctors and gave them write prescriptions as a preventive dose has not been proven to work.

Totally different if your going to be dead soon. Why not try anything at that point. But, that’s not what’s being advocated for from the White House podium.

Take this to DC.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

You're trying to hard Donger.
No ones trying to make shit political but you.

Hit the road

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes. Certain fringers think that Dr. Fauci is a globalist fascist with an agenda. Blah blah blah.

Oh, and don't tase me, bro. You asked.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

its an extreme right wing talking point and conspiracy theory gaining a lot of ground.

The deep state, in this case Dr. Fauci wants the economy to suck on purpose to get the President removed in November.

It’s a good thing that’s not what he is talking about then.

[TLO]

So we're expected to peak in deaths in the next 7-14 days. Hopeful we can cut some days off of that. A lot of encouraging news about getting over the peak even though the upcoming days are going to be bad.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes. Certain fringers think that Dr. Fauci is a globalist fascist with an agenda. Blah blah blah.

Oh, and don't tase me, bro. You asked.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

its an extreme right wing talking point and conspiracy theory gaining a lot of ground.

The deep state, in this case Dr. Fauci wants the economy to suck on purpose to get the President removed in November.

Which is laughable. Who has more knowledge and a longer public health record than Dr. Fauci? He’s worked for every President since Regan.

Ok, I see no evidence that is what he is doing. You two seem to be steering it that way though, so please drop it.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Donger

And he was correct when he said that on January 21. We had one case.

Would preventative measures have been helpful at that time?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Ok, I see no evidence that is what he is doing. You two seem to be steering it that way though, so please drop it.

He mentioned the economy and the impact upon it. It's a common theme. With that, I digress.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Would preventative measures have been helpful at that time?

Of course. I don't recall when Washington started locking things down.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Take this to DC.

how is that political?

Saying those who are advocating for Americans to take unproven drugs is wrong is now a political statement.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

how is that political?

Saying those who are advocating for Americans to take unproven drugs is wrong is now a political statement.

It's not.