***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by stevieray

It's interesting you say that, because I've been pondering going that route.

This isn’t going to change the fact you are a hard worker. There was a reason you were successful. Get past the virus healthy and move on and up.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Kids can go from lots of fun to driving you nuts in minutes lol. But I’m sure you know that

Hell hath no fury like a child bored.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

This isn’t going to change the fact you are a hard worker. There was a reason you were successful. Get past the virus healthy and move on and up.

Amen.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Hell hath no fury like a child bored.

Hey dad
Hey dad
Hey dad
Hey dad
Hey dad



Dad guess what
Dad guess what...

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by stevieray

It's interesting you say that, because I've been pondering going that route.

Maybe you should advertise your works for $1200 a piece. Time it a couple days before the first stimulus money gets sent out.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm not "sick of it" yet, but I'll get there, likely before 60 more days and definitely well before 90 days. And I thankfully don't have a bunch of kids at home driving me nuts either...those are the people who are going to crack.

I’m fortunate in that my kids are doing great so far with no issues whatsoever.

There hasn’t been a radical change to my lifestyle at all, other than the closing of trails and parks.

I certainly don’t miss spending 90 minutes or more per day on the 101 to drop off and pick up my Middle Schooler.

[KChiefs1]

This next couple of weeks is going to be awful if you listen to the news.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I’m fortunate in that my kids are doing great so far with no issues whatsoever.

There hasn’t been a radical change to my lifestyle at all, other than the closing of trails and parks.

I certainly don’t miss spending 90 minutes or more per day on the 101 to drop off and pick up my Middle Schooler.

I had just got my oldest grandson set up with the school bus after spending the last month driving 45-60 mins each way dropping off and picking up. It lasted three damn days before they went on spring break about 4 weeks ago. They're still out.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

This next couple of weeks is going to be awful if you listen to the news.

What was last week? It was pretty awful already imo... the week before too...

[Demonpenz]

You aint bad you ain't nothin

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I’m not going to get shit. So the details don’t matter to me.

But, I’d bet money that 90% of Americans thought when this was signed that it was free money with no strings attached. Because that’s how it was sold.

Not some complicated sliding scale involving different tax years. Depending on which side of the complex formulas your financials land on whether you get to keep your money or not.

Like was mentioned - it’s not complicated.

It’s a tax credit - for 2020, that does not impact your taxes refund. They will be adding whatever amount you get now to wash out whatever you got.

Plus the possibility of getting more. You won’t get less, you won’t have to pay anything (even if you make more) and it’s not taxable.

Free money... no strings attached... it will just be documented on your taxes in 2020. Does not increase your tax liability in 2020. If you get a 1500 refund normally - you’ll still get it, if you owe (like me) you will owe the same amount not more.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

You aint bad you ain't nothin

MJ

[TLO]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

What was last week? It was pretty awful already imo... the week before too...

Yeah the news keeps saying that. It feels like it has been pretty awful for a while now.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by stumppy

I had just got my oldest grandson set up with the school bus after spending the last month driving 45-60 mins each way dropping off and picking up. It lasted three damn days before they went on spring break about 4 weeks ago. They're still out.

I am saving thousands on the kids inability to participate in their team sports , but in a few more weeks I might be willing to spend millions on building a sports complex so I can watch 1 show without being interrupted 20 times and I might burn all our board games by then too.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

This next couple of weeks is going to be awful if you listen to the news.

The models I've seen show that Missouri isn't even into the bell curve yet and the peak hitting in Mid May. We have a long way to go.