***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Donger

Currently at 21,237 new cases. 1,052 deaths.

Yesterday was 34,196 and 1,331 deaths.

Hopefully those numbers are accurate and not a result of it being a Sunday.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Hopefully those numbers are accurate and not a result of it being a Sunday.

I’m not getting my hopes up after last Sunday

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Hopefully those numbers are accurate and not a result of it being a Sunday.

There more than 10 hours left in the day, here out West...

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by stumppy

And Boris Johnson caused that?

I think those are separate questions.
Lone took some positions that people think make him a POS.
Lone noted, in a separate line of conversation, that he's glad Boris is hospitalized because he thinks Boris is a POS for different reasons.
People reminded Lone that they still think he's a POS for their reasons as well.

So Lone defended his initial positions, now that people are bringing them back on him. . . .

Hope that helps, I'm sure Sauto will let us know if it doesn't . . .

[stumppy]

Me neither.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I think those are separate questions.
Lone took some positions that people think make him a POS.
Lone noted, in a separate line of conversation, that he's glad Boris is hospitalized because he thinks Boris is a POS for different reasons.
People reminded Lone that they still think he's a POS for their reasons as well.

So Lone defended his initial positions, now that people are bringing them back on him. . . .

Hope that helps, I'm sure Sauto will let us know if it doesn't . . .

Wishing somebody harm is kind of a shitty thing to do no?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I think those are separate questions.
Lone took some positions that people think make him a POS.
Lone noted, in a separate line of conversation, that he's glad Boris is hospitalized because he thinks Boris is a POS for different reasons.
People reminded Lone that they still think he's a POS for their reasons as well.

So Lone defended his initial positions, now that people are bringing them back on him. . . .

Hope that helps, I'm sure Sauto will let us know if it doesn't . . .

Look, I’ve already warned you to let it go here and ignored a couple posts since then. This is your last time at taking a shot at me in this thread. No one wants that shit here.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I think those are separate questions.
Lone took some positions that people think make him a POS.
Lone noted, in a separate line of conversation, that he's glad Boris is hospitalized because he thinks Boris is a POS for different reasons.
People reminded Lone that they still think he's a POS for their reasons as well.

So Lone defended his initial positions, now that people are bringing them back on him. . . .

Hope that helps, I'm sure Sauto will let us know if it doesn't . . .

Yea, I know all that. But thanks for explaining all this really hard to understand stuff that some dumbass like me wouldn't be able to figure out without the help of your great intellect.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Yea, I know all that. But thanks for explaining all this really hard to understand stuff that some dumbass like me wouldn't be able to figure out without the help of your great intellect.

If you knew that, why did you ask the question you did?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I didn't ask you to start up with me, but I guess it's Sauto's world, so I'm out.

See ya

[mr. tegu]

My local Hy-Vee has arrows throughout the store now directing traffic so that each aisle is one way only. I like it as it seemed to help prevent bunching in the aisles and being forced to walk between or around other people so much.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Wishing somebody harm is kind of a shitty thing to do no?

Sure it is, I wasn't giving an opinion on who is and isn't a shitty person and/or why. I was just clarifying that Lone hated Boris for different reasons, and didn't blame him for his personal business prospects, as it appeared [utterly erroneously apparently ] stumppy thought it did.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

My local Hy-Vee has arrows throughout the store now directing traffic so that each aisle is one way only. I like it as it seemed to help prevent bunching in the aisles and being forced to walk between or around other people so much.

I was in a Hy-Vee like that yesterday. I hated it.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Sure it is, I wasn't giving an opinion on who is and isn't a shitty person and/or why. I was just clarifying that Lone hated Boris for different reasons, and didn't blame him for his personal business prospects, as it appeared [utterly erroneously apparently ] stumppy thought it did.

I don't want to derail the thread anymore but if you'll go back and read the posts I think you see why I posted what I did.

Anyways, the Chiefs won the Super Bowl.

[stevieray]

Cmon, ya'll..please don't fight over this. I was only responding to BCD and the anstyness(lol) some are feeling out there, because I can relate.

I appreciate all the sentiments, and I'm a pretty positive guy....you have to be to be in my line of work...so I appreciate the encouragement. If I wasn't tad bit nervous, something would be off.

But don't take that wrong . I'm extremely grateful that I've even made it this far. I chased the American dream, and I kicked its ass. I took a God given talent, brought joy to others with that talent,.supported a family and allowed my wife to be a stay at home mom. I've had INCREDIBLE opportunities and experiences, meeting some absolutely downright amazing people. I have no regrets. This was the path I chose and I've been greatly rewarded.

That said, it kicked my ass too. Sleepness nights in the beginning, wondering where the next job would come from, with the weight of Jupiter of fear of letting my young family down. barely getting through..taking deposits and paying bills before a brush hit the wall. And of course thunderous barrages of work that ultimately, now that I look back..the ups and downs were thrilling to go through. It taught me patience, perseverance, persistence and humility.


It made me a better man.

That said, if it is over, I welcome the next chapter of my life, whatever it may be. I never even saw this career coming.

Every job needs to be done, and done well. From janitor to CEO.

I'm confident there are very smart people trying to get a hold of this

The best we can do for now is edify each other , and not tear each other down.

Thanks again.