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Old 02-07-2021, 08:59 PM  
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I was told it wasn't necessary. Draft them in the 6th and 7th round and pick up the rest off the bargain bin in free agency. O-Line doesn't matter when you have Mahomes.

Now do you guys understand?

Pat can't do this alone.
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Old 02-08-2021, 07:55 AM   #151
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Patrick has had a knee misplaced, a toe that needs surgery and a concussion scare. He’s only 25 and already has all of that.

Perhaps it IS best to load up on OL no that doesn’t mean drafting them in every round.
Funny enough, I thought this same thing. I keep going back to the thought that the knee was a freak thing and the concussion probably wasn't a concussion. However, freak injuries happen all the time. Even at 25 getting pounded takes a toll on your body. It shortens your career. At some point you have to spend draft capital on offensive linemen when you have a half billion dollar investment at QB. Especially when you have just seen what happens when you trot out scrubs against a very good front four.

OL is by no means the only problem but it is the biggest problem. I think we need, in no order, OL, WR, LB, and a pash rushing DE.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:07 AM   #152
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Trade back, get an extra 2nd and 4th. Use some of the 5th rd picks to move up into the 3rd. That gets you 4 picks in the top 100 to get 2 quality OL, a DE and a LB. WR can wait until the later rds or you can usually pick a vet FA for fairly cheap for their 3rd/4th option. It would of been nice to get a comp pick for an EB hiring but apparently he's not impressing anybody and his past from a decade ago still haunts him.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:11 AM   #153
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Patrick has had a knee misplaced, a toe that needs surgery and a concussion scare. He’s only 25 and already has all of that.

Perhaps it IS best to load up on OL no that doesn’t mean drafting them in every round.
Exactly. This teams fortunes are going to live and die with Mahomes. Keeping him upright is priority number one. You keep him upright by protecting him and opening running lanes. Brady has won 7 because he’s been protected. These injuries Patrick has add up - ask Andrew Luck.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:14 AM   #154
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Trade back, get an extra 2nd and 4th. Use some of the 5th rd picks to move up into the 3rd. That gets you 4 picks in the top 100 to get 2 quality OL, a DE and a LB. WR can wait until the later rds or you can usually pick a vet FA for fairly cheap for their 3rd/4th option. It would of been nice to get a comp pick for an EB hiring but apparently he's not impressing anybody and his past from a decade ago still haunts him.
I like this line of thought. This team needs tools, not toys right now.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:14 AM   #155
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It was evident Reid didn’t want to use Kelce to block and felt he needed him as a weapon in the passing game.

Credit to TBs linebackers. Those guys are all beasts and by keeping the safeties deep, those linebackers were flying around making plays in the middle zones where Kelce works.

It’s too bad Watkins was a total flop this year...the team desperately needs another weapon out wide.
Need a reliable #2 WR. Hardman doesn't look like he will be it. Kelce is not getting younger either. Hopefully they can address that. Watkins thanks for the last sb but bye.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:17 AM   #156
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Trade back, get an extra 2nd and 4th. Use some of the 5th rd picks to move up into the 3rd. That gets you 4 picks in the top 100 to get 2 quality OL, a DE and a LB. WR can wait until the later rds or you can usually pick a vet FA for fairly cheap for their 3rd/4th option. It would of been nice to get a comp pick for an EB hiring but apparently he's not impressing anybody and his past from a decade ago still haunts him.
If we didn't need a Left Tackle I would agree with you. That is the hardest part and it might require a trade up.

If somehow we can get a good LT in free agency them I would sign off on quantity and going for numbers.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:27 AM   #157
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Yep. I think that was an issue. The offensive play calling was just off all game.
It appeared that Bieniemy was actually calling the plays.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:34 AM   #158
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I think you can get a quality LT early in the 2nd. Don't sacrifice good because they're not great and don't be afraid to get a guy just because some draft guru says he's "an end of rd2/early 3rd". That would be my 1st pick unless there was absolutely no value at that point.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:36 AM   #159
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Also needs to be said, what the hell happened to our DL getting pressure. Pretty sure those 4 pressures were on their first 2 drives. Felt like we got nowhere near Brady after those drives. Not like they had a great OL either.
Getting pressure goes out the window when the other team is up by 2-3 scores. You can’t pin your ears back and rush the passer. And the Bucs ran a lot more.
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I think you can get a quality LT early in the 2nd. Don't sacrifice good because they're not great and don't be afraid to get a guy just because some draft guru says he's "an end of rd2/early 3rd". That would be my 1st pick unless there was absolutely no value at that point.
Guys that can play left tackle seldom escape the 1st round. It's a premium position.

I'll go further. Seldom get a real left tackle past 15th overall. Maybe this year OL is a bit more loaded but we need to move up, not down if we are getting it in the draft.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:36 AM   #161
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Agreed, I think its pretty hard to overstate the effect that accident had on Andy's mindset
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:16 AM   #162
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The injuries mahomes has had weren't because of the oline though
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:25 AM   #163
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The injuries mahomes has had weren't because of the oline though
I disagree. Last year before the knee cap, he was very hobbled up because of an ankle injury from our OL getting blown up (against Indy maybe?).

This year, you could easily argue his toe was because of our OL. For one thing, we would not be running QB option every time we need a first down, if we had a decent OL.

Also, if we want him to play for 15 more years (we do)... then we need to figure out a way to protect him better.
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:35 AM   #164
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Guys that can play left tackle seldom escape the 1st round. It's a premium position.

I'll go further. Seldom get a real left tackle past 15th overall. Maybe this year OL is a bit more loaded but we need to move up, not down if we are getting it in the draft.
this draft does appear to be loaded in positions of need for The Chiefs, specifically OT.

Also; in a covid year where there isn't going to be a normal combine, and a lot of college teams didn't play or play full seasons, teams that have a stable front office and coaching staff have a huge advantage.

So we're in good position to have a knock-out draft.
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