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Old 11-23-2017, 10:36 AM   #2
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Or the 1 & 8 giants.
Small sample size.

Every team we've beaten has a winning record.

Every team we've lost to has a losing record.

That tells me the coaching is where we fail...
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Old 11-23-2017, 10:38 AM   #3
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Small sample size.

Every team we've beaten has a winning record.

Every team we've lost to has a losing record.

That tells me the coaching is where we fail...
We certainly do play down to others team's potential
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:15 AM   #4
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Small sample size.

Every team we've beaten has a winning record.

Every team we've lost to has a losing record.

That tells me the coaching is where we fail...
Uh, what.

We beat the Broncos, Chargers and Texans, all under .500.

We lost to the steelers who are 7-2(?).
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Old 11-23-2017, 12:21 PM   #5
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Thielen and Diggs is probably the best WR duo going right now
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Old 11-23-2017, 12:29 PM   #6
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The 2-14 team also had 6 pro bowlers, which is unheard of for most good teams let alone bad ones..

That season was a complete anomaly and a we were lucky to have it because it gave us a new regime that has created a winning culture.
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:00 PM   #7
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The 2-14 team also had 6 pro bowlers, which is unheard of for most good teams let alone bad ones..

That season was a complete anomaly and a we were lucky to have it because it gave us Smitty and Reid.
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:11 PM   #8
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F**k you b**ch.. Learn how to read. I never said it wasn't cover 2 I said they were disguising it.

Like I said either way, Reid will eventually figure it out. He's too good a HC not to
How much do you want to bet that Reid will REALLY "figure it out" once Mahomes is the starter?
How much do you want to bet that the O-line will REALLY "turn it around" once Mahomes is the starter?
How much do you want to bet that the TE's and WR's will REALLY "step it up" once Mahomes is the starter?
How much do you want to bet the the Defense will REALLY "get back on track and start making the turnovers happen again" once Mahomes is the starter?

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Andy has figured it out. There's guys wide open and we see that on film.

His QB isn't figuring it out on the field.
Shhh...you're spoiling the surprise!





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And don't forget how pretty much everyone here wanted to fire Sutton. A couple games later now Smitty is the main problem with the team..

Flip-flop CP posters....
Um, we STILL want to fire Sutton.

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They had nothing at QB2 on the roster.


"They just didn't have enough bodies on the QB roster"!!!

Every time I think that you could not demonstrate the act of being a fool to any greater a degree, you just turn right around and send that ante right on up to the Throne of God.

They traded firsts and moved up higher in position than I've EVER seen this franchise do in ALL THE YEARS that I have followed their drafts TO GET MAHOMES YOU IDIOT.

God almighty...
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:27 PM   #9
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How much do you want to bet that Reid will REALLY "figure it out" once Mahomes is the starter?
How much do you want to bet that the O-line will REALLY "turn it around" once Mahomes is the starter?
How much do you want to bet that the TE's and WR's will REALLY "step it up" once Mahomes is the starter?
How much do you want to bet the the Defense will REALLY "get back on track and start making the turnovers happen again" once Mahomes is the starter?
It's so true.
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:36 PM   #10
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Been holding out all year on Mahomes, wanting him to sit and develop a great foundation for success

But at this point, I would be willing to concede the point, seems like there is no question that Pat would spark this entire team... from the O line and receivers, to the defense getting feisty again

The flaws in his fundamentals can be worked on during camp and preseason, I am completely ready to see him start making more of those 'The Last Airbender' throws like we witnessed this preseason
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:45 PM   #11
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Been holding out all year on Mahomes, wanting him to sit and develop a great foundation for success

But at this point, I would be willing to concede the point, seems like there is no question that Pat would spark this entire team... from the O line and receivers, to the defense getting feisty again

The flaws in his fundamentals can be worked on during camp and preseason, I am completely ready to see him start making more of those 'The Last Airbender' throws like we witnessed this preseason
At this point he's been given much more time to sit and learn than most QBs ever get taken that early. But to have a chance to play your first NFL games against some pretty bad teams to finish this season, and then also likely get to start a playoff game in his rookie year... man, that's a hard opportunity to look away from.

Give him the last 5 games plus playoffs to get in game experience on top of the 12 weeks he has sat, and you get the best of both worlds. We have a team and coaches around him that shouldn't put him in situations to fail. He is set up nicely.
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Old 11-23-2017, 03:48 PM   #12
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How much do you want to bet that Reid will REALLY "figure it out" once Mahomes is the starter?
How much do you want to bet that the O-line will REALLY "turn it around" once Mahomes is the starter?
How much do you want to bet that the TE's and WR's will REALLY "step it up" once Mahomes is the starter?
How much do you want to bet the the Defense will REALLY "get back on track and start making the turnovers happen again" once Mahomes is the starter?
What the hell does the defense have to do with Mahomes? Mahomes doesn't play defense. The defense is not going to better because of Mahomes. Let me guess you think our special teams is going to get better because of Mahomes too?

You're just a typical moron fan. You think the only thing that matters is the QB. No other position in football is important. It's why 95% of posts on CP are about Smitty. You uneducated fans think because in Madden you can win with the Browns when you have Tom Brady that's how it works in real life. Guess what? It doesn't.

Stick to Madden and fantasy football guys. Discussing real football isn't for you.
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Old 11-23-2017, 04:47 PM   #13
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What the hell does the defense have to do with Mahomes? Mahomes doesn't play defense. The defense is not going to better because of Mahomes. Let me guess you think our special teams is going to get better because of Mahomes too?

You're just a typical moron fan. You think the only thing that matters is the QB. No other position in football is important. It's why 95% of posts on CP are about Smitty. You uneducated fans think because in Madden you can win with the Browns when you have Tom Brady that's how it works in real life. Guess what? It doesn't.

Stick to Madden and fantasy football guys. Discussing real football isn't for you.
That's convenient. When our defense is top 10 and creating umpteen turnovers a game, our qb just knows how to win games. When our defense is bottom 10, it's a team game and the defense is failing us.

That's a fair measuring stick.
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:49 PM   #14
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I am probably the last guy to call for the QB's head but I agree Let's get Mahomes in there now. Let's put him in and take our lumps regardless of what happens. Tired of these teams all my life that are just good enough to be a sacrificial lamb in the playoffs.
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Old 11-23-2017, 02:59 PM   #15
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I am probably the last guy to call for the QB's head but I agree Let's get Mahomes in there now. Let's put him in and take our lumps regardless of what happens. Tired of these teams all my life that are just good enough to be a sacrificial lamb in the playoffs.
Thats where Im at. I dont think we see Mahomes this year barring injury but I think its definitely the best move long term. Hes the future so unless you got something special happening this season and dont want to mess it up then why keep delaying the inevitable.

I dont see much if any downside because I dont see this team as a legit threat to do anything meaningful. Its possible if he had a bad first outing the team could pack it in, but I keep coming back to I dont see this team doing anything in January anyway even if we hang onto the division lead for a playoff spot. Its also possible he could surprise in a good way and give this offense a boost, pumping life back into a possible playoff run, but Id still be cautious with that talk. For me its more about getting the needed game day experience NOW instead of next season being the first time he sees real action.

They will probably win the next two, three games, basically securing a playoff spot and that will quiet down the QB talk.
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