***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by lewdog

It’s not about you and your needs you self righteous prick.

Sadly, the only way you’ll understand is if someone you know gets this.

I do know someone that has it you ****ing asshole (my sister in law and an engineer who works for me.) Our response to this was stupid and still is.

[Donger]

[petegz28]

NY already reporting another 347 deaths....

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I do know someone that has it you ****ing asshole (my sister in law and an engineer who works for me.) Our response to this was stupid and still is.

Hypothetically, if you could keep your 503 workers employed under the condition that somewhere between 20-30 of them would be hospitalized and 1-5 of them would die, would you do it?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

NY already reporting another 347 deaths....

They did say 2/3 of the hospitalized pts have been discharged

So that’s good

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Hypothetically, if you could keep your 503 workers employed under the condition that somewhere between 1-5 of them had to die, would you do it?

If the odds are that at least one of them would die even after we shut down, yes.

We already had rules in place for social distancing at work and stringent cleaning every 2 hours. The one engineer that works for me that has it caught it in Vegas at a trade show.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

If the odds are that at least one of them would die even after we shut down, yes.

We already had rules in place for social distancing at work and stringent cleaning every 2 hours. The one engineer that works for me that has it caught it in Vegas at a trade show.

When was the trade show? Does he still have it?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I do know someone that has it you ****ing asshole (my sister in law and an engineer who works for me.) Our response to this was stupid and still is.

Well now you look even more reeruned with your stance on this issue.

Congrats.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Hypothetically, if you could keep your 503 workers employed under the condition that somewhere between 20-30 of them would be hospitalized and 1-5 of them would die, would you do it?

Unless they close down for a whole year in order to wait on a vaccine and all of those employees stay in their houses that whole time, does it matter?

Hell, the doctors themselves are bringing this shit to small towns.

Eventually, it has to run it's course.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Well now you look even more reeruned with your stance on this issue.

Congrats.

I see you up drinking all night and comprehension isn't your strong suit

[Chief Pagan]

Yes it absolutely matters. Keep the hospital’s from m being overwhelmed.

Allow time to build more ventilators. Maybe better treatments will be developed.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by ghak99

Unless they close down for a whole year in order to wait on a vaccine and all of those employees stay in their houses that whole time, does it matter?



Hell, the doctors themselves are bringing this shit to small towns.



Eventually, it has to run it's course.

That's...not likely.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

If the odds are that at least one of them would die even after we shut down, yes.

We already had rules in place for social distancing at work and stringent cleaning every 2 hours. The one engineer that works for me that has it caught it in Vegas at a trade show.

That's a terribly thought out response. Because if we had a crystal ball, this would be pretty easy to determine a response.

But since we don't have a crystal ball, we won't know if one of your employees will die even with these measures, so we take extreme measures to provide the best outcome for all citizens. This includes shutdowns so that hospitals do not become overwhelmed, especially when we are seeing that many who recover do in fact need a ventilator for a time to make a full recovery. If ICUs are out of beds, people don't get that chance at recovery.

And this isn't just about deaths. Many who are recovering are showing permanent cardiac and pulmonary damage. This isn't some cold or flu that you recover from and are guaranteed no lasting effects.

[007]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

For those that don't know yet, HBO has made 500 hours of content free during the month of April. It can be viewed through the HBO Go or HBO Now apps except for on Roku devices, you can still view it on there but you have to go through the Roku channel.

Everything says start your 7 day free trial for me.