***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I have attached the data from the Lancet article.

That's exactly the data I was looking at, which supports what I have been saying this whole time.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

https://news.yahoo.com/google-publis...081909211.html

{double checks settings...}

{uninstalls maps; turns off phone GPS}

Man, this is just ****ing ridiculous.

Welcome to your free trial of Authoritarianism.

Are you equally upset by Google's traffic maps? It's not really any different.

[TLO]

Weather went from 74 and sunny yesterday to 35 and freezing rain/sleet today. I think I've got some postnasal drip that's giving me a sore throat. Trying not to over think it

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

Weather went from 74 and sunny yesterday to 35 and freezing rain/sleet today. I think I've got some postnasal drip that's giving me a sore throat. Trying not to over think it

sounds like an STD.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by SupDock

That's exactly the data I was looking at, which supports what I have been saying this whole time.

How so?

Everyone under 50 appears to have a rate close to what? .12%? The group from 40-50 is .16%. Isn't that exactly what I have stated was reported? Drop it to under 40 and you are looking at .07%? That is pretty much the flu, not even a terribly bad year.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Are you equally upset by Google's traffic maps? It's not really any different.

Google voluntarily providing tracking data to government authorities under the auspices of 'providing feedback' isn't any different than a red line on a map?

Again - this isn't that they have the data. It's what they have stated they intend to do with it. And since pretty much everything government bodies have done over the last month has served to further curtail basic personal liberties under the guise of 'protecting us', I think I'd just as soon not help them out.

A majority of this population is suddenly eager to not only surrender their free-will but are actively encouraging the elimination of MORE of it. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead push back in whatever small ways I can. Because lord knows governments are pillars of restraint.

[SAUTO]

County commissioners put us under a stay at home order.


1 to 2 took a week. 2 to 3 2 days.

Now they think we have at least 12 a couple days later. Commissioner I talked to said they are awaiting tests.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by TLO

Weather went from 74 and sunny yesterday to 35 and freezing rain/sleet today. I think I've got some postnasal drip that's giving me a sore throat. Trying not to over think it

Don't worry about it. I've got pretty shitty seasonal allergies and I'm experiencing the same things.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Publix around here is only letting customers 65+ and or with disabilities in the stores 7:00-8:00 am on Tuesdays and Wensdays.

Same here as well.

Starting today Miami-Dade County issued a new county order requiring all grocery stores to reduce their capacity to 50%, so that's really made things crazy.

[FloridaMan88]

No more Corona (beer)...

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...ntl/index.html

Corona beer halts production

Modelo Group, the Mexican brewer of Corona, announced it was halting production and marketing of its beer, according to a statement released on the company’s Twitter page Friday.

The Mexican beer company said it was taking the steps to “comply with the measures adopted by the Federal Government” of Mexico.

They also expressed their “total commitment to be part of the fight against the SARS-Cov2 virus”, the statement reads.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by TLO

Weather went from 74 and sunny yesterday to 35 and freezing rain/sleet today. I think I've got some postnasal drip that's giving me a sore throat. Trying not to over think it

Same here. My truck was an ice ball this morning.

[burt]

Originally Posted by loochy

Absolutely. However, is it a surprise? This happens with every topic, from legal issues to working out to NFL playcalling. Everyone considers themselves experts, but in all probability 99 percent of them are just regurgitating stuff they read somewhere else.

CLEAN UP ON ISLE 9!!!

[burt]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

That's a little aggressive, wouldn't you say?

touche'

[Titty Meat]

Just got told we are now off til atleast April 24th. I'm an essential employee who gets a month vacation

[SAUTO]

Welp mo jumped up to number 19 on the list for most cases today. The kc metro area jumped up quite a bit too. So much for that trending down huh?