***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Donger

Ugh, numbers starting to come in. Already at 13,200 new cases.

How does this make you feel?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Since they said there was some reporting issue on Sunday causing lower numbers to be reported I think we can say today was the first day since March 20th was the first day to have less total new deaths than the previous day. 1 day a trend does not make but you can't have a trend without it.

Hell yeah!

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Donger

I don't wish to contaminate this thread with DC history. Thanks.

Well, why not?

[DanT]

Originally Posted by ghak99

Wasn't there some info out there stating that the California virus was a fairly specific source and NY had figured out that they had imported the virus from several different sources? I want to say they had genotyped the virus at various locations and could determine the regions it had traveled through prior to getting to the current host city. Perhaps there are some slight differences resulting in treatment success.

Yes, you may be thinking of this article with regard to the sources of the strains...https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/5080571002/

The mutations are described there as "harmless", though...that is, they are helpful for tracking but wouldn't necessarily have anything to do with the lethality of the virus.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Donger

Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense to me. You seem to be contradicting yourself. But, let's leave it alone.

If you put the virus inside your mask then wear it, does that increase or decrease your chances of get said virus.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Well, why not?

I'd suggest a different tactic. This one is rather obvious.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Monticore

My wife tests everyone she suspects has influenza.

What do you mean suspects?

[TLO]

We should chill with the bickering. We're all in this together, ladies and gentlemen.

If you find someone you really don't like - "looking at you oaklandhater", put them on ignore.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by TLO

We should chill with the bickering. We're all in this together, ladies and gentlemen.

If you find someone you really don't like "looking at you oaklandhater", put them on ignore.

why point me out

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Monticore

If you put the virus inside your mask then wear it, does that increase or decrease your chances of get said virus.

Yes, and I guess I missed that happening in the scenario that the poster who observed the supermarket lady doing that.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Monticore

My wife tests everyone she suspects has influenza.

As a Party Favor?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

What do you mean suspects?

If she thinks they have influenza then she tests them.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

My wife tests everyone she suspects has influenza.

That's assuming they come into the doctor. Most people I know never go to the doctor. Seriously. I would wager $'s to donuts that for ever person that goes to the doctor for the flu 50 don't if not more.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

why point me out

Hey I took you off ignore for a second!

I put you on ignore because you grabbed the brightest, flashiest, most fear mongering articles you could find and posted them in here.

I don't want to see that, and I don't think a lot of other people cared to see it either.

So on ignore you went. Nothing personal, friend.

Stay healthy.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, and I guess I missed that happening in the scenario that the poster who observed the supermarket lady doing that.

Putting her mask on the dash after seemingly touching everything in her car with dirty gloves .