***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

If everyone one wears a mask that lady might be ok because all the infected people are wearing masks reducing overall risk to everyone.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Donger

That's incorrect, but let's try to keep the DC animosity there, eh?

As soon as you can finish a post without a question mark at the end.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You also said it was "newer" and that they would be getting overrun like Italy and NY. You have no way of knowing any of it.

I did not with any certainty. I said it's POSSIBLE it's newer. Obviously the best way to find out is to chart individually each case. We don't have that information. But you could determine this if we found out (in each state) how many total cases there are, how many active cases there are, how many recoveries there are, and how many deaths. At that point we would have a good idea of which state had the most mature infections.

[petegz28]

Since they said there was some reporting issue on Sunday causing lower numbers to be reported I think we can say today was the first day since March 20th was the first day to have less total new deaths than the previous day. 1 day a trend does not make but you can't have a trend without it.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Yes if I contaminate the inside of the mask then wear it yes you are better off without. If they leave the house with the mask and don’t take it off , or put in their pocket, car seat , to take a bite to eat , don’t wear it moist or wet or soiled. Then yes it will help protect themselves, in the above scenario it would continue to protect others if she happened to be infected herself.

I wear masks more than most and find it hard wearing one for more than 15 minutes.

Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense to me. You seem to be contradicting yourself. But, let's leave it alone.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

As soon as you can finish a post without a question mark at the end.

Okay. You're an idiot. There and here. Consistency is good.

That was easy.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

A pedant is a person who is excessively concerned with formalism, accuracy, and precision

The horror.

pedantic
adjective disapproving
US /pedˈæn.tɪk/ UK /pəˈdæn.tɪk/

giving too much attention to formal rules or small details:

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Donger

Okay. You're an idiot. There and here. Consistency is good.

That was easy.

Why do you feel like he's an idiot? Why is consistency good?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Donger

That's incorrect, but let's try to keep the DC animosity there, eh?

Why do you not like DC animosity?

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

waiting for the pete 'If it wasn't for NY/NJ' post...

Can you see one of his posts without making some sort of asinine comment? It's getting old man. Put him on ignore and move on with your life.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is this your motto?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Most people who get the flu never get tested. Which is why our annual flu numbers are estimates. Or do you think literally 50+ million people a year in this country get tested? I have never, ever had a flu test but I know for damn sure I've had the flu.

My wife tests everyone she suspects has influenza.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Donger

When was it 2.5% before now?

Valid question, but what do you mean by before?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by kgrund

So is Donger the guy that most people know at least one who has to argue EVERY point?

Why do you ask?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Why do you not like DC animosity?

I don't wish to contaminate this thread with DC history. Thanks.