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#1546 |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Just occured to me that I'm really looking forward to the first episode of Quarterback Season 2.
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#1547 |
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Cincinnati
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"Mike Brown is cheap"
https://www.spotrac.com/news/breakin...xtension-2013/ Breaking Down Joe Burrow's $275M Extension Joe Burrow (hilariously) interrupted the NFL Kickoff Opener Thursday night with news of his brand new 5 year, $275,000,000 extension with the Bengals. Burrow scores a $40M pay raise this year, with a whopping $146.5M fully guaranteed at signing ($111M of new guarantee). THE AVERAGE ANNUAL VALUE Burrow didn’t just surpass Justin Herbert’s $52.5M per year - he blew by it. His $55M per year represents 24.4% of the current NFL Salary Cap ($224.8M), the highest percentage of cap in NFL history. Three years ago, Patrick Mahomes’ $45M per year was the top number. Mahomes now ranks 8th on that list, with 4 players north of $50M per year (and that includes Aaron Rodgers taking himself OUT of that group). THE CAP FLOW The Bengals utilized a SIX BONUS structure with this extension: A $40M signing bonus, a $55M 2nd year option bonus, 3 consecutive $10M option bonus, and a final $5M option bonus in the 2028 season. For the most part, this keeps the upfront cap hits relatively tenable, with a slight need for salary conversion coming in 2025/2026, and an excessive figure in the final season. Annual Cap Allocations 2023: $19.5M 2024: $29.7M 2025: $46.25M 2026: $48.25M 2027: $52.25M 2028: $53.5M 2029: $68.5M 2030: $9M (dead) CONCLUDING THOUGHTS Many, ourselves included, wondered if Joe Burrow would take the Peyton Manning approach (max out) or the Tom Brady approach with this rookie extension. Quite obviously he chose the former here. The Bengals haven’t put together a contract like this in the history of their franchise, historically not fully guaranteeing any future salary - often not even for injury purposes. They haven’t been “cheap” in terms of overall payouts, but they’ve been frugal when it comes to the stability of their contracts. There’s not a soul who can claim that about this Joe Burrow extension. It’s rock solid through 2027, with a bit of an out prior to the 2028 season, and a definitive one before 2029. Cincinnati will be sticking more than $100M into escrow with this deal (fully guaranteed cash not paid out in 2023), proving they’re on board for whatever it takes to keep this elite QB1 in town for as long as possible. |
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#1548 | |
MVP
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Texas
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3-year cash flow for Mahomes after signing his new deal: $66 million (2020-2022) 3-year cash flow for Josh Allen after signing his new deal: $95 million (2021-2023) 3-year cash flow for Hurts after signing his new deal: $106 million (2023-2025) 3-year cash flow for Herbert after signing his new deal: $134 million (2023-2025) 3-year cash flow for Burrow after signing his new deal: $146 million (2023-2025) |
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#1549 | |
offense > defense
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Tua has it easy with those WR, but that D is ass. Hurts? Fair, they're loaded. Jury is out on him individually and I'm not as sure on him individually as most who've crowned him already. This is a compliment to the team btw, but idiot homers like you are too blinded by reality with Burrow's junk in your eye. Being real, give Mahomes the D Burrow has had, Mahomes has 5 rings. |
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#1550 |
MVP
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Lawrence, KS
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Brown is average at best and gets abused by speed rushers. And Burrow is no Mahomes when it comes to avoiding the rush. It's guaranteed that Brown will give up way more sacks than he did in KC. Not to mention, Burrow isn't close to Mahomes at extending plays and making accurate throws on the run. When he's not getting sacked, he'll be sailing the ball into the seats.
Donovan Smith is a proven commodity. He had a down year last year due to injury, but he's healthy now. No reason to think he won't be solid. He's more athletic and definitely a better pass protector than Brown when healthy. |
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#1551 | |
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2019
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#1552 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Cincinnati
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The difference between last Sunday and what Jonah did over there the last couple years is noticible. It can't be understated just how bad Burrow played and it wasn't in any way Brown's fault, in that game. |
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#1553 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Cincinnati
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He's also been handicapped by a very bad offensive line in 2 straight playoff seasons. |
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#1554 | |
Forever Royal
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Of course he has been carried. Find me another QB with 0 fourth quarter TD drives with a 5-2 record. Bet you can’t. One of these guys is post season career of Cousins and one is Burrow. Only reason you can really discern them is the defense PPG. Y/G 262 261 Completion % 66.5 67.3 Y/A 6.8 7.3 Rating 93.8 93.8 TD/game 1.25 1.3 PPG 20 23 Defense/PPG 28 19 |
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#1555 |
I'll be back.
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Burrow is just a slightly sexier version of Joe Flacco with no rings.
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#1556 |
Would an idiot do that?
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Arizona
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rfaulk defending the Bengals in two separate threads against Chiefs and Bills fans...
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#1557 |
Threepeat!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland
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#1558 |
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2019
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Burrow is Alex Smith if he hadn't been ruined by the 49ers.
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#1559 |
Cheat Death
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Land of Drincoln
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Burrow is prime Matt Ryan dressed as a bundle of sticks for Halloween
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#1560 |
MVP
Join Date: Mar 2021
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Flaccid had a unibrow and a look of caveman about him. The birds must have taken him to Kohls
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