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Old 01-24-2023, 08:39 AM  
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BURROWHEAD: Bengals talking a lot of sh1ttttt
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Old 09-12-2023, 09:50 PM   #1546
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:11 PM   #1547
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https://www.spotrac.com/news/breakin...xtension-2013/

Breaking Down Joe Burrow's $275M Extension

Joe Burrow (hilariously) interrupted the NFL Kickoff Opener Thursday night with news of his brand new 5 year, $275,000,000 extension with the Bengals. Burrow scores a $40M pay raise this year, with a whopping $146.5M fully guaranteed at signing ($111M of new guarantee).

THE AVERAGE ANNUAL VALUE
Burrow didn’t just surpass Justin Herbert’s $52.5M per year - he blew by it. His $55M per year represents 24.4% of the current NFL Salary Cap ($224.8M), the highest percentage of cap in NFL history.

Three years ago, Patrick Mahomes’ $45M per year was the top number. Mahomes now ranks 8th on that list, with 4 players north of $50M per year (and that includes Aaron Rodgers taking himself OUT of that group).

THE CAP FLOW
The Bengals utilized a SIX BONUS structure with this extension: A $40M signing bonus, a $55M 2nd year option bonus, 3 consecutive $10M option bonus, and a final $5M option bonus in the 2028 season.

For the most part, this keeps the upfront cap hits relatively tenable, with a slight need for salary conversion coming in 2025/2026, and an excessive figure in the final season.

Annual Cap Allocations
2023: $19.5M
2024: $29.7M
2025: $46.25M
2026: $48.25M
2027: $52.25M
2028: $53.5M
2029: $68.5M
2030: $9M (dead)

CONCLUDING THOUGHTS
Many, ourselves included, wondered if Joe Burrow would take the Peyton Manning approach (max out) or the Tom Brady approach with this rookie extension. Quite obviously he chose the former here.

The Bengals haven’t put together a contract like this in the history of their franchise, historically not fully guaranteeing any future salary - often not even for injury purposes. They haven’t been “cheap” in terms of overall payouts, but they’ve been frugal when it comes to the stability of their contracts.

There’s not a soul who can claim that about this Joe Burrow extension. It’s rock solid through 2027, with a bit of an out prior to the 2028 season, and a definitive one before 2029. Cincinnati will be sticking more than $100M into escrow with this deal (fully guaranteed cash not paid out in 2023), proving they’re on board for whatever it takes to keep this elite QB1 in town for as long as possible.
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:02 PM   #1548
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"Mike Brown is cheap"

https://www.spotrac.com/news/breakin...xtension-2013/

Breaking Down Joe Burrow's $275M Extension

Joe Burrow (hilariously) interrupted the NFL Kickoff Opener Thursday night with news of his brand new 5 year, $275,000,000 extension with the Bengals. Burrow scores a $40M pay raise this year, with a whopping $146.5M fully guaranteed at signing ($111M of new guarantee).

THE AVERAGE ANNUAL VALUE
Burrow didn’t just surpass Justin Herbert’s $52.5M per year - he blew by it. His $55M per year represents 24.4% of the current NFL Salary Cap ($224.8M), the highest percentage of cap in NFL history.

Three years ago, Patrick Mahomes’ $45M per year was the top number. Mahomes now ranks 8th on that list, with 4 players north of $50M per year (and that includes Aaron Rodgers taking himself OUT of that group).

THE CAP FLOW
The Bengals utilized a SIX BONUS structure with this extension: A $40M signing bonus, a $55M 2nd year option bonus, 3 consecutive $10M option bonus, and a final $5M option bonus in the 2028 season.

For the most part, this keeps the upfront cap hits relatively tenable, with a slight need for salary conversion coming in 2025/2026, and an excessive figure in the final season.

Annual Cap Allocations
2023: $19.5M
2024: $29.7M
2025: $46.25M
2026: $48.25M
2027: $52.25M
2028: $53.5M
2029: $68.5M
2030: $9M (dead)

CONCLUDING THOUGHTS
Many, ourselves included, wondered if Joe Burrow would take the Peyton Manning approach (max out) or the Tom Brady approach with this rookie extension. Quite obviously he chose the former here.

The Bengals haven’t put together a contract like this in the history of their franchise, historically not fully guaranteeing any future salary - often not even for injury purposes. They haven’t been “cheap” in terms of overall payouts, but they’ve been frugal when it comes to the stability of their contracts.

There’s not a soul who can claim that about this Joe Burrow extension. It’s rock solid through 2027, with a bit of an out prior to the 2028 season, and a definitive one before 2029. Cincinnati will be sticking more than $100M into escrow with this deal (fully guaranteed cash not paid out in 2023), proving they’re on board for whatever it takes to keep this elite QB1 in town for as long as possible.
Mahomes really sold himself short. These other teams are finding ways to pay their QB's huge money and the cap hits aren't too bad.

3-year cash flow for Mahomes after signing his new deal: $66 million (2020-2022)
3-year cash flow for Josh Allen after signing his new deal: $95 million (2021-2023)
3-year cash flow for Hurts after signing his new deal: $106 million (2023-2025)
3-year cash flow for Herbert after signing his new deal: $134 million (2023-2025)
3-year cash flow for Burrow after signing his new deal: $146 million (2023-2025)
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Old 09-13-2023, 04:08 AM   #1549
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Go choke on a flaming AIDS football.
Tell me which QB who matters is carried more by his team.

Tua has it easy with those WR, but that D is ass.

Hurts? Fair, they're loaded. Jury is out on him individually and I'm not as sure on him individually as most who've crowned him already.

This is a compliment to the team btw, but idiot homers like you are too blinded by reality with Burrow's junk in your eye. Being real, give Mahomes the D Burrow has had, Mahomes has 5 rings.
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Old 09-13-2023, 08:42 AM   #1550
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Brown is average at best and gets abused by speed rushers. And Burrow is no Mahomes when it comes to avoiding the rush. It's guaranteed that Brown will give up way more sacks than he did in KC. Not to mention, Burrow isn't close to Mahomes at extending plays and making accurate throws on the run. When he's not getting sacked, he'll be sailing the ball into the seats.

Donovan Smith is a proven commodity. He had a down year last year due to injury, but he's healthy now. No reason to think he won't be solid. He's more athletic and definitely a better pass protector than Brown when healthy.
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Old 09-13-2023, 08:49 AM   #1551
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Hate to rain on your parade with facts but i went back and watched the All 22 on offense, every pass snap including penalties.

On 35 pass sets Brown had:
No help on 24 snaps
TE help on 1 snap
TE chip on 3 snaps
RB help on 3 snaps
RB chip on 4 snaps

That's no help on 24 snaps and help on 11 snaps. He wasn't an issue at any point in the game. On one of the pressures that i'm sure he was credited with, he was pushing the DE past the QB and Burrow failed to step up. On another, he had control but Burrow didn't have room to step up.

The offense looked like shit because Burrow played like shit. OBj was fine and he was def better than Donovan Smith.
We used to tell ourselves the same sort of things about Brown to make ourselves feel better, but you'll eventually come to hate him as we did.
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Old 09-13-2023, 09:54 AM   #1552
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We used to tell ourselves the same sort of things about Brown to make ourselves feel better, but you'll eventually come to hate him as we did.
I'm not blind and i'm not expecting an all pro. If he falls on his face, i'll be first in here dumping shit on his head.

The difference between last Sunday and what Jonah did over there the last couple years is noticible. It can't be understated just how bad Burrow played and it wasn't in any way Brown's fault, in that game.
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Old 09-13-2023, 09:56 AM   #1553
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Tell me which QB who matters is carried more by his team.

Tua has it easy with those WR, but that D is ass.

Hurts? Fair, they're loaded. Jury is out on him individually and I'm not as sure on him individually as most who've crowned him already.

This is a compliment to the team btw, but idiot homers like you are too blinded by reality with Burrow's junk in your eye. Being real, give Mahomes the D Burrow has had, Mahomes has 5 rings.
Carried by his team is a misnomer. Burrow has been the beneficiary of better overall team play. I don't think there's ever been a time where i've disputed this.

He's also been handicapped by a very bad offensive line in 2 straight playoff seasons.
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Old 09-13-2023, 10:18 AM   #1554
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Carried by his team is a misnomer. Burrow has been the beneficiary of better overall team play. I don't think there's ever been a time where i've disputed this.

He's also been handicapped by a very bad offensive line in 2 straight playoff seasons.

Of course he has been carried. Find me another QB with 0 fourth quarter TD drives with a 5-2 record. Bet you can’t.

One of these guys is post season career of Cousins and one is Burrow. Only reason you can really discern them is the defense PPG.

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Old 09-13-2023, 10:24 AM   #1555
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Burrow is just a slightly sexier version of Joe Flacco with no rings.
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Burrow is just a slightly sexier version of Joe Flacco with no rings.
Burrow has a lot more money than Flacco. Flacco has a sexier surname and better jewelry. They both look good in tight pants, so I’m not sure who is sexier. It’s a coin toss for me.
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Burrow is Alex Smith if he hadn't been ruined by the 49ers.
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