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Old 04-29-2022, 06:44 PM  
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Old 10-23-2022, 09:58 PM   #1501
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Yeah, early returns clearly show Pickens is a far more productive player at this point. It’s not even close.

I think most of us that liked Skyy as a prospect knew it would take time to get on the field with this group of WRs. I think I specifically cited the bye as a pivot point for him. I compared his upside to Welker and still think that’s accurate, but the guys comparing Pickens to AJ Green look to be right, already. He looks great.

But would he be a problem if he didn’t get the play time he’s currently getting? He’s a bit of a hothead.
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:09 PM   #1502
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He's 4th on the depth chart at WR. I dont expect him to do shit this year besides learn and be ready to take over for JuJu next year.
That's going to be a ****ing nightmare.

This isn't college, you don't get a redshirt year. The expectation this year should have still been 4-500 yards and maybe 3-4 TD and that would have been fine. Instead we're probably looking at maybe 300 yards and 1-2 TD at most from a 2nd round pick with nothing but hope that he can take a huge jump in year 2. Easier to have that hope when said player shows anything at all as a rookie. All we have is what he supposedly did in training camp. Didn't do shit in the preseason and hasn't done shit since the season started. We keep hearing from talking heads "This is the week he finally takes a bigger role". Now we're going to hear how he's primed to get more reps after the bye, which I'm calling bullshit to.
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:11 PM   #1503
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Yeah, early returns clearly show Pickens is a far more productive player at this point. It’s not even close.

I think most of us that liked Skyy as a prospect knew it would take time to get on the field with this group of WRs. I think I specifically cited the bye as a pivot point for him. I compared his upside to Welker and still think that’s accurate, but the guys comparing Pickens to AJ Green look to be right, already. He looks great.

But would he be a problem if he didn’t get the play time he’s currently getting? He’s a bit of a hothead.
Taking Wes Welker over AJ Green was a stupid ****ing thing to do no matter how you spin it, locker room issues be damned. And let's be real, it's not just Pickens. Alec Pierce is running laps around Moore as well.
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:12 PM   #1504
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If he gets separation, then he's a good WR (or at least not a bad one). The stats don't necessarily prove he always gets separation due to the small sample size, but they at least show he's on the right track.

That's why I'm still optimistic for him. Stop dashing his confidence on these dumbass punt returns, get him some designed plays (maybe average one per game?) and start turning him into something other than the player people bitch and whine about because he's not Pickens.
That's a good point and one I've been curious about. Why not give him a play designed for him like they did with the Bills. Even if it's one a game. Get him and Mahomes to build a little connection somehow.
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:18 PM   #1505
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That's going to be a ****ing nightmare.

This isn't college, you don't get a redshirt year. The expectation this year should have still been 4-500 yards and maybe 3-4 TD and that would have been fine. Instead we're probably looking at maybe 300 yards and 1-2 TD at most from a 2nd round pick with nothing but hope that he can take a huge jump in year 2. Easier to have that hope when said player shows anything at all as a rookie. All we have is what he supposedly did in training camp. Didn't do shit in the preseason and hasn't done shit since the season started. We keep hearing from talking heads "This is the week he finally takes a bigger role". Now we're going to hear how he's primed to get more reps after the bye, which I'm calling bullshit to.
I mean, JJSS, MVS, Hardmann, and Kelce are all ahead of him in the pecking order. I thought that seemed fairly clear.

About all he can do is get open when he has the chance, and we know he does that. You going to complain to Pat that he's not getting the ball enough for you?
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:22 PM   #1506
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I mean, JJSS, MVS, Hardmann, and Kelce are all ahead of him in the pecking order. I thought that seemed fairly clear.
Hardman is still just a gadget guy, he got his yards today on runs and other non-standard receiving routes. If Moore wasn't too busy pissing down his leg there would likely be opportunity at the #3 spot on the offense. There are plenty of yards to be had by everyone in an offense that will likely come close to 5,000 passing yards, but most of those are going to go elsewhere than Moore because he makes boneheaded mistakes.
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:23 PM   #1507
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I mean, JJSS, MVS, Hardmann, and Kelce are all ahead of him in the pecking order. I thought that seemed fairly clear.

About all he can do is get open when he has the chance, and we know he does that. You going to complain to Pat that he's not getting the ball enough for you?
Pat's looked his way but he's making errors leading to turnovers (both turnovers today can be directly attributed to Moore). If I were Pat I would stop looking his way, the payoff just isn't worth the risk.

I'd also absolutely bring in OBJ and keep Moore on the bench other for 2-3 snaps of spot duty at the end of games.
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:29 PM   #1508
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That's going to be a ****ing nightmare.

This isn't college, you don't get a redshirt year. The expectation this year should have still been 4-500 yards and maybe 3-4 TD and that would have been fine. Instead we're probably looking at maybe 300 yards and 1-2 TD at most from a 2nd round pick with nothing but hope that he can take a huge jump in year 2. Easier to have that hope when said player shows anything at all as a rookie. All we have is what he supposedly did in training camp. Didn't do shit in the preseason and hasn't done shit since the season started. We keep hearing from talking heads "This is the week he finally takes a bigger role". Now we're going to hear how he's primed to get more reps after the bye, which I'm calling bullshit to.
He's not going to get many snaps, so he's not gonna get a huge opportunity to produce.

Also let me get this straight...

You consider 400 yards and 3 TDs a win, but 300 TDs and 2 TDs is failure? That's a difference of 6 yards a game lol. He's not gonna get his shot this season, unless an injury happens.
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:34 PM   #1509
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Yeah, early returns clearly show Pickens is a far more productive player at this point. It’s not even close.

I think most of us that liked Skyy as a prospect knew it would take time to get on the field with this group of WRs. I think I specifically cited the bye as a pivot point for him. I compared his upside to Welker and still think that’s accurate, but the guys comparing Pickens to AJ Green look to be right, already. He looks great.

But would he be a problem if he didn’t get the play time he’s currently getting? He’s a bit of a hothead.
It's 7 games and people like you were saying he would go for 1k. Perhaps the reasonable take here is that it usually takes time for young WRs in Reids system.
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Hardman is still just a gadget guy, he got his yards today on runs and other non-standard receiving routes. If Moore wasn't too busy pissing down his leg there would likely be opportunity at the #3 spot on the offense. There are plenty of yards to be had by everyone in an offense that will likely come close to 5,000 passing yards, but most of those are going to go elsewhere than Moore because he makes boneheaded mistakes.
Hard to get yards when you arent on the field because you are a depth rookie getting 22% of the offensive snaps.
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Hardman is still just a gadget guy, he got his yards today on runs and other non-standard receiving routes. If Moore wasn't too busy pissing down his leg there would likely be opportunity at the #3 spot on the offense. There are plenty of yards to be had by everyone in an offense that will likely come close to 5,000 passing yards, but most of those are going to go elsewhere than Moore because he makes boneheaded mistakes.
No matter how much you say it, he is not going to get anywhere close to being the #3 option on this offense. He's a rookie and it's been said time and time again that it's hard for rookie WRs to learn this playbook. He's not going to get more targets than Kelce, JJSS, Hardman, MVS, whatever RB they're going to put out there. Andy doesn't put rookies above vets.
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For ****s sake, Pickens has played 77% of snaps for the Steelers.

That's higher than every single one of the Chiefs WRs and Kelce has played in 79% of the Chiefs offensive snaps.

Hmm I wonder why George has more yards than Moore?!
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He's not going to get many snaps, so he's not gonna get a huge opportunity to produce.

Also let me get this straight...

You consider 400 yards and 3 TDs a win, but 300 TDs and 2 TDs is failure? That's a difference of 6 yards a game lol. He's not gonna get his shot this season, unless an injury happens.
Then it was a stupid draft pick to make, either that or it was dumb to spend FA money on both MVS and Juju and ensure our 2nd round pick sits the bench most of the year.
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I think he'll be alright he's basically the 4th WR right now, has caught some good balls. Watson is taking some snaps from him too. He's just not on the field, we're deep and he's a rook
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For ****s sake, Pickens has played 77% of snaps for the Steelers.

That's higher than every single one of the Chiefs WRs and Kelce has played in 79% of the Chiefs offensive snaps.

Hmm I wonder why George has more yards than Moore?!
That’s incredibly simplistic. Receivers don’t just get yards and TDs entirely because they get snaps. By that logic if Kemp got 75% of the snaps at WR would he be putting up the stats that MVS and Juju are getting with similar snaps?
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