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Game of Thrones Seasons 7-8
About to hit the 5000 post mark on the old thread, the first season 7 trailer today seems like the right time to start the final Game of Thones thread.
I'm going back to the original rules pre-2015. I don't think we need supervision or bannings. Just don't be a dick. Post anything you find online that hasn't aired yet inside of spoiler tags. That's pretty much it. I think we can all handle that... For future us, 2015 thread is here: Link Last edited by keg in kc; 06-21-2017 at 10:48 AM.. |
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08-22-2017, 02:42 PM | #1486 |
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In a way, I still blame GRRM for this even though the show's writers are clearly more directly to blame. I have no idea how he will be able to get to the ending he clearly planned (Jon and Dany heading north to defeat the NK) without having to start keeping characters alive through "plot armor." The world's just so complex that I don't know if even he knows how he's going to get out of it.
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08-22-2017, 02:51 PM | #1487 | |
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Benioff and Weiss are coming off like; Sure it was impressive how they tackled this massive project, but when they find themselves facing their artificially imposed end date without author input, . . . . well I don't buy that all the stuff they cut or synthesized down was fluff. They could have built the world for years, instead they have the hot chick in their bed and are splooging on her knee. |
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08-22-2017, 02:55 PM | #1488 | |
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Alternatively, I think they'd have faced a fan revolt. Lets not forget season 3 (maybe 4?) when they had a fanbase getting pretty pissed off at them for dawdling. This is a 'don't know what you've got' kind of moment. Fans, perhaps many of us included, didn't realize that the full-scale immersion in the world and the slow burn was precisely what made the show good. Those that hoped things would speed up are getting what they asked for. And frankly, it pretty much sucks. |
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08-22-2017, 03:24 PM | #1489 | |
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08-22-2017, 03:34 PM | #1490 | |
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But I don't have to gleefully lap it up. And that's my point - had THIS been the quality of the show from its commencement, it would've been cancelled 4 years ago. D&D were handed an incredible property and told to make it their own. They don't have the chops for it. If you can't acknowledge that the GOT folks are engaged in objectively shitty storytelling at this point, I just don't know what to tell you. They're doing a bad job. |
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08-22-2017, 03:38 PM | #1491 | |
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I'm hopeful that GRRM's conclusion is strong enough that D&D can conclude with a satisfying finale. |
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08-22-2017, 03:43 PM | #1492 | |
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If you know what's being left out and are looking for the plot holes, you're starting to be disappointed. If you sit down for eye-popping visuals with a passable underlying narrative, you're still a pig in shit. It's still superior to most blockbuster cinema out there. |
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08-22-2017, 03:51 PM | #1493 |
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I was disappointed that the Hound saved Tormund. Not because I wanted to see Tormund die, the fact that I didn't want to see him die is why they should have done it. The show established early it wasn't afraid to kill off fan favorite characters but now it seems like some of those characters are safe.
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08-22-2017, 03:53 PM | #1494 | |
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08-22-2017, 03:56 PM | #1495 | |
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What purpose can Tormund possibly serve to the story at this point? As a pure storytelling device, the highest and best use of his character right now is to kill him off and keep the audience tense. But again - bad storytelling. |
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08-22-2017, 03:58 PM | #1496 |
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There's plenty of characters to finish the show, killing off liked characters gives the impression that anything can still happen, not this guy was a gonner but gets magically saved.
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08-22-2017, 04:00 PM | #1497 | |
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08-22-2017, 04:02 PM | #1498 |
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Has a single POV character been killed off yet in the books? Id almost argue the main characters have more plot armor in the books than in the show.
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08-22-2017, 04:03 PM | #1499 | |
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08-22-2017, 04:05 PM | #1500 |
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