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Justin Houston’s last year in KC?
I’m not an expert on these contracts, but could it be Houston’s last year here? His production has been awful and with two games this year with big leads and lots of down the field pass attempts by opposing QBs, Houston has no sacks. I think he has less sacks in the last 50 or so games than he did in the year before his contract, the big year with 22 sacks. His cap hit will decline dramatically next year. He might be gone. As a general rule, I think the chiefs should limit these large 2nd contracts. The motivation just isn’t there. The raiders were right to trade Khalil Mack. Here’s the info on Houston’s contract. Let’s hope Houston turns it around. We need him for a playoff run but if he doesn’t increase production, I think he’s gone.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...-houston-7789/ |
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09-21-2018, 02:40 PM | #136 |
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He has some incredible physical traits. I thought coming out he could be a future DPOY. We Chiefs love us some physical freaks too so he fits the bill there. And according to profootballreference his nickname is Doo Doo Get it done Veach. |
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09-21-2018, 03:07 PM | #138 |
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Why do people have such a hard time understanding that a restructure LOWERS the cap hit but doesn't lower the amount of money the player is paid or how much he counts against the cap? All a restructure does is push the salary cap hit a few years later and almost always makes the hit worse.
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09-21-2018, 03:22 PM | #140 |
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Often times a restructure doesn't add additional years. It usually just means taking a portion of the base salary and converting it to a bonus so that it can be spread out over multiple years.
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09-21-2018, 03:23 PM | #141 | |
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Not only is he not himself and on the backside of a severe injury, he's almost 30 years old. Good teams don't keep players like him. |
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09-21-2018, 03:24 PM | #142 | |
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09-21-2018, 03:24 PM | #143 |
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That must be the disconnect. I am talking about an extension and conversion of salary to bonus, with lower annual salary to bring the cap hit down.
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09-21-2018, 05:22 PM | #144 |
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Signing bonuses still count against the cap. And if you extend the number of years, you spread out the cap hit of the bonus, paying for it after the guy is gone.
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I'd like to see a combination of a new Defensive Coordinator + Scheme, and Justin Houston & Eric Berry restructure. I'd also add another all defensive draft in 2019.
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09-21-2018, 06:07 PM | #146 |
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I'd be fine with that, except for a center should be taken somewhere in rounds 2-3. I don't want to sink money into Morse.
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09-21-2018, 07:43 PM | #147 |
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09-21-2018, 09:35 PM | #148 | |
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While Houston isn't the premier pass rusher like he used to be, he's not worthless by any means of the imagination. Also, he's better rounded OLB than Ford is, and Ford is only a one trick pony. And this is just an assumption. But if Houston, for all intents and purposes, does look done, then I could see the Chiefs extending Ford, and designate Houston as a post 6/1. The only scenario I could see that Houston and Ford being gone is if there is a new DC and new defensive scheme. Last edited by Coach; 09-21-2018 at 09:40 PM.. |
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09-21-2018, 11:53 PM | #149 | |
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Not to mention that unmitigated disaster they call an offensive line in Seattle. Houston passed my eye test last week after a disappointing week 1. |
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09-22-2018, 03:33 AM | #150 |
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Cutting Houston and tagging Ford would be madness, tag would be north of $15m and then $7.5m of dead cap from Houston means 1 OLB slot on the roster is costing you probably $25m and you're getting Ford for that? Insanity.
There's $50m in cap space as it stands right now for 2019 with Berry and Houston on no kind of re-structure, even after re-signing role players and looking at an extension or two you're still probably looking at $25-30m to spend on free agents on the defense next year, seems like a decent amount of cash to me? I'd probably look at big name safety and D line free agents, then look at lower cost serviceable options for OLB and CB with all top 3 draft picks going on the defense again. |
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