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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
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#137 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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They could potentially be a playoff team with Justin Fields next year. I think Chicago is as good a 1.1 opportunity as any QB has had in a VERY long time. |
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#138 |
Suupraa Geniuuusss
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Third time now that I've heard/read about Caleb possibly being a bust. Will be interesting to see how he pans out. And which analysts prove to be correct.
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#139 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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Dude throws 6 TDs in his only start. That's gotta matter. Especially when there are real concerns that the guy doesn't process very well. |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
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#141 |
SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS
Join Date: Aug 2013
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I’m starting to buy in a little on Williams and I think the possibility of Chicago being a real competitor again is fun. Thank God the NFC is finally getting some new QB blood.
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#142 |
Generational Player
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
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He's very talented. But he does have some flaws.
Unlike Mahomes, who created to keep the play alive, Caleb will actually create the chaos himself even when it is not needed. Mahomes was killed for this coming out but Caleb is way worse at moving on to the next play. |
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#143 |
WhatUneed2Hear
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: AllSoulsMatter
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#144 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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Watson created far more headaches for himself than he needed to and in the end the only thing he truly did well was throw a pretty deep ball. Clay would've masturbated furiously to either of those guys back in 2015 in his 'throw it deeeeeeeep' days. Williams has tools, no question. Premier arm talent, great athleticism. But he's not a polished quarterback in a lot of ways. We've gotten a little bit nutty in that we suddenly expect these guys to be finished products when very very few truly are. He could absolutely learn how to do most of these things he struggles with. But Fields never did. Many guys before that didn't. And Williams has to self-scout in order to make those improvements; it's not a given that he's open to that sort of thing. I'd take him at 1.1. I'd simply not be willing to pass on the tools. But man - there's a lot more risk here than many want to think. |
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Langley, VA
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WhatUneed2Hear
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: AllSoulsMatter
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#147 | |
Generational Player
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
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To me there are two guys at the top in Caleb and Drake. Both have talent to be very good. For most prospects, unless you are a generational player like Mahomes or a horrible prospect like Josh Rosen, the destination matters a lot. If you are a talented prospect and go to a team with no oline, weapons or coaching you are going to look bad. Then you need coaching fit. If Josh Allen went to Shanahan I don't think he would be what he is now. He got Daboll who built a unique offense around the QB. Not every QB drafted gets that opportunity. |
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#148 |
MVP
Join Date: Dec 2018
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I don’t see any kind of leadership gene with Caleb.
He might be great if he went into a ready made situation like SF. But how will he react when he’s playing for a shitty organization and people are failing all around him? I have serious doubts but we’ll see. |
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#149 |
Inmem 2.0
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: My house
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Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: KC
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Throw them into the fire right away. |
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