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**KcMizzou** · 07-08-2010, 08:18 PM

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KCUnited · 08-28-2010, 11:18 PM

That Penn corner was comical.

**Bwana** · 08-28-2010, 11:19 PM

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That Penn corner was comical.

Yeah, it was like listening to Herm try to coach a football game.

ArrowheadHawk · 08-29-2010, 12:33 PM

BJ. What a waste of talent. If he could stay motivated and have a good corner he would be unstoppable. He just fought Franki's fight. Why didn't he use leg kicks to slow that sumbitch down?

BigCatDaddy · 08-29-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

BJ. What a waste of talent. If he could stay motivated and have a good corner he would be unstoppable. He just fought Franki's fight. Why didn't he use leg kicks to slow that sumbitch down?

He really has seemed uninterested in these last 2 fights. I don't know if it's frustration with Frankie, or just a lull in his career.

ArrowheadHawk · 08-29-2010, 07:58 PM

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He really has seemed uninterested in these last 2 fights. I don't know if it's frustration with Frankie, or just a lull in his career.

I guess we will watch him work his way back up the ladder.

ArrowheadHawk · 08-29-2010, 07:58 PM

Also I think Grey is going to destroy Frankie.

TheGuardian · 08-29-2010, 08:26 PM

Styles make fights. Frankie just fights a style that gives BJ problems. It has nothing to do with BJ's corner or his camp. Some guys just give certain guys problems. BJ also hasn't improved in a long time while the people around him at 155 have, and are evolving. At one point BJ was good enough to win on talent alone. That's not the case anymore.

ArrowheadHawk · 08-29-2010, 10:04 PM

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Styles make fights. Frankie just fights a style that gives BJ problems. It has nothing to do with BJ's corner or his camp. Some guys just give certain guys problems. BJ also hasn't improved in a long time while the people around him at 155 have, and are evolving. At one point BJ was good enough to win on talent alone. That's not the case anymore.

Its just hard to imagine that was same guy that dismantled Sherk and Diego.

CoMoChief · 08-29-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Styles make fights. Frankie just fights a style that gives BJ problems. It has nothing to do with BJ's corner or his camp. Some guys just give certain guys problems. BJ also hasn't improved in a long time while the people around him at 155 have, and are evolving. At one point BJ was good enough to win on talent alone. That's not the case anymore.

Edgar is just too quick. He doesn't get tired, he just keeps going, his motor is unreal.

BIG_DADDY · 08-29-2010, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah, it was like listening to Herm try to coach a football game.

You're so much stronger than this guy. lol

TheGuardian · 08-30-2010, 09:47 AM

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Its just hard to imagine that was same guy that dismantled Sherk and Diego.

Guys have ups and downs in their careers. But in MMA if you don't get better and evolve fast guys that are up and coming will eat you up. Who saw Sonnen winning 8-10 rounds for 4.5 rounds over Anderson Silva? Styles make fights. I also think that BJ hasn't improved much while everyone around him has improved by leaps and bounds. He's not top dog anymore, in any weight class. He looks like just another guy now. I think it's possible we see Matt Hughes and Penn fight soon (BJ moving back to 170). That would be very telling right now I think.

**Bane** · 08-30-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah, it was like listening to Herm try to coach a football game.

I missed it.It was that bad?

raybec 4 · 08-30-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

BJ. What a waste of talent. If he could stay motivated and have a good corner he would be unstoppable. He just fought Franki's fight. Why didn't he use leg kicks to slow that sumbitch down?

In BJ's defense leg kicks against an awesome wrestler are not usually a great idea, it's a takedown waiting to happen. BJ was not active from his back or agressive in his stand up. You really can't have a lot of success counter punching someone who is so much faster than you are.

KCUnited · 08-30-2010, 09:57 AM

Plus the fact that BJ looked as if he hadn't even broken a sweat prior to the opening bell was telling for me. He looked stoic, while Edgar looked like a greyhound taking a dump walking into the gate.

ArrowheadHawk · 08-31-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Guys have ups and downs in their careers. But in MMA if you don't get better and evolve fast guys that are up and coming will eat you up. Who saw Sonnen winning 8-10 rounds for 4.5 rounds over Anderson Silva? Styles make fights. I also think that BJ hasn't improved much while everyone around him has improved by leaps and bounds. He's not top dog anymore, in any weight class. He looks like just another guy now. I think it's possible we see Matt Hughes and Penn fight soon (BJ moving back to 170). That would be very telling right now I think.

Hughes looked badass in his last fight.

07-08-2010, 08:18 PM
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ArrowheadHawk Rock Chalk! ArrowheadHawk's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Topeka, KS	BJ. What a waste of talent. If he could stay motivated and have a good corner he would be unstoppable. He just fought Franki's fight. Why didn't he use leg kicks to slow that sumbitch down?
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TheGuardian MVP TheGuardian's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2009	Styles make fights. Frankie just fights a style that gives BJ problems. It has nothing to do with BJ's corner or his camp. Some guys just give certain guys problems. BJ also hasn't improved in a long time while the people around him at 155 have, and are evolving. At one point BJ was good enough to win on talent alone. That's not the case anymore.
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KCUnited Cheat Death KCUnited's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln	Plus the fact that BJ looked as if he hadn't even broken a sweat prior to the opening bell was telling for me. He looked stoic, while Edgar looked like a greyhound taking a dump walking into the gate.
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