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11-21-2018, 11:07 PM | #136 |
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Mahomes has been electric this season. Most sports experts picked the Chiefs at the bottom of the division- now we are going to win our 3rd in a row because of PM. His has carried a team with a bad defense most of the year, and a team that will blow away all the stats from the previous year with a different QB. Brees is having a fine year, but has not even been close as far as making the amazing plays Mahomes has made.
Even in stats he is killing Brees. Twice he has thrown 6 TD's and has broken many records already. If he ends up 50 TD's and 5000 yards- there is no way he should not be MVP. He is the Best in the NFL. As far as Brees not getting an MVP before- that should not even be a factor- it is based on THIS year- not a lifetime achievement award. |
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11-21-2018, 11:22 PM | #137 |
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11-21-2018, 11:27 PM | #138 |
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Brees for MVP, Mahomes for Super Bowl MVP.
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11-21-2018, 11:29 PM | #139 |
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Mahomes has to win more games than Brees to win it, IMO.
If he doesn't the writers won't care about TDs. |
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11-22-2018, 12:37 AM | #140 |
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I’m officially at the point of not giving two shits about the MVP award. People won’t shut up about it, specifically on social media, and it makes you realize how meaningless it really is in the big picture.
I just want Mahomes to be the Super Bowl MVP. That’s it. |
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11-22-2018, 01:02 AM | #141 |
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I agree. The Chiefs, and Mahomes, need to play flawless for the next 5 games and the Saints need to drop 2 in their next 6...with Brees having a few off games. It might take Mahomes breaking the TD record if not.
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11-22-2018, 03:47 AM | #142 |
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I can calmly and whole heartedly concede and actually be happy to agree that Brees should win the MVP. He deserves it.
I also calmly thought till the last pass that we would beat the Rams. I can accept this because I know in my heart what we have in Mahomes. and The glory will come. |
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11-22-2018, 04:16 AM | #143 |
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Well it's far from settled, argument could go both ways:
* tons of TDs (maybe record) * loads of yards (maybe record) * decent TD:Turnover ratio * popular player with fast-growing audience or + sick completion rating + awesome passing rating + almost no Turnovers + HOF player with best season stat-wise Wins should be about the same, probably 13 or 14 for both teams. I don't care much about QB box score stats because completion%, passing yards etc. are really a team stat. Of course if you're going for records it MATTERS, but eye test is crucial to understand what's going on. If we were judging primarily by passer rating or yards, Brees would already have 3+ MVPs. But voters recognized that's not the case. Lots of 7-9 seasons and 40 points games against inferiors. |
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11-22-2018, 04:42 AM | #145 |
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I think they'll get an L somewhere between Panthers games and Steelers bout. But yeah, they look almost invincible atm.
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11-22-2018, 05:09 AM | #146 |
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Mahomes. No question.
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11-22-2018, 09:02 AM | #147 | |
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11-22-2018, 09:11 AM | #148 |
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One reason I keep throwing in the face of Saints fans is their running game is so lethal they don't have to throw it as much.
And that makes Mahomes literally more valuable. The Chiefs have to lean on their QB more. |
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11-22-2018, 07:41 PM | #149 |
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High completion percentage and low amount of ints? Are we talking about Alex Smith? I know 77% completion percentage is impressive, but look at the top 20 for completion percentage in a season. It's a bunch of no bodies with a few HoF thrown in there. Bradford, Ryan, Cousins, Ken Anderson and Derek Carr are all in the top 10 for highest completion percentages in a year. Hell look at the list of QBs with the fewest ints thrown, that list has Deberg number 2 and Prescott, Smith, Griffin, and Bradford in the top 10. Do those players impress you, because they sure don't impress me. If Mahomes hits 50 tds then he is the MVP hands down. High completion percentage and lack of interceptions shouldn't win someone an MVP. Mahomes is on pace for the 3rd most yards in a single season and is on pace for the 2nd most TD passes ever. His completion percentage is also 67.5 percent right now. He's the MVP. He's on pace to do things only 1 or 2 other QBs have ever done.
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11-22-2018, 07:54 PM | #150 |
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Nice to see Brees throw an INT tonight. Watching both without question Mahomes is more deserving of the MVP. Brees makes way too many safe horizontal passes and pads his stats and risks getting injured just to take the MVP award from a more deserving Mahomes as he knows this is pretty much his last chance at an MVP.
The only thing worrying me is most vertical offenses tend to slow down in the harsh winters and Brees gets to play in a warm dome all year. |
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