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Old 02-03-2009, 02:46 AM   #2
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Next year, Matt Cassel will come nowhere close to producing like he did this year. I gauran-damn-tee it!
Yeah I agree.. He is on a loaded team.. Hell roger or phil could win 10games throwing the ball for them..
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:56 PM   #3
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The other thing this fan base is obsessed with...trading down.
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:02 PM   #4
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The other thing this fan base is obsessed with...trading down.
BUT IT'S SO EASY!

I mean, who wouldn't want to give up their 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks, plus take on an extra $20M in guaranteed money?

Why wouldn't Philadelphia want to give us both their 1sts, their 2nd, and a first next year?
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:24 AM   #5
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BUT IT'S SO EASY!

I mean, who wouldn't want to give up their 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks, plus take on an extra $20M in guaranteed money?

Why wouldn't Philadelphia want to give us both their 1sts, their 2nd, and a first next year?
It's been done many times before.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:31 AM   #6
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It's been done many times before.
Please, enlighten us all as to when the last time a team traded down from the #3 pick was.
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:10 AM   #7
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Please, enlighten us all as to when the last time a team traded down from the #3 pick was.
I'm waiting for him to tell us the last time that someone traded out of the top 3.
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:27 PM   #8
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The other thing this fan base is obsessed with...trading down.
This is a great point. As great as it sounds, the problem seems to be coming up with a partner. When was the last time someone traded into the top 5? As a Dolphin fan, many were talking about trading the #3 away for a multitude of picks a couple of years ago when we got Ronnie Brown. Never found a deal. Last year, people were talking about getting the Cowboy's 2 first rounders because we were terrible and had a ton of holes to fill. Never found a partner. I think the chances of finding a partner that is willing to pay close to reasonable compensation knowing that they are going to take on a huge gauranteed contract are practically zero.
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:28 PM   #9
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This is a great point. As great as it sounds, the problem seems to be coming up with a partner. When was the last time someone traded into the top 5? As a Dolphin fan, many were talking about trading the #3 away for a multitude of picks a couple of years ago when we got Ronnie Brown. Never found a deal. Last year, people were talking about getting the Cowboy's 2 first rounders because we were terrible and had a ton of holes to fill. Never found a partner. I think the chances of finding a partner that is willing to pay close to reasonable compensation knowing that they are going to take on a huge gauranteed contract are practically zero.
Thinking logically is not a strong suit of some NFL fans, your post makes to much sense for them to comprehend.
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:07 AM   #10
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This is a great point. As great as it sounds, the problem seems to be coming up with a partner. When was the last time someone traded into the top 5? As a Dolphin fan, many were talking about trading the #3 away for a multitude of picks a couple of years ago when we got Ronnie Brown. Never found a deal. Last year, people were talking about getting the Cowboy's 2 first rounders because we were terrible and had a ton of holes to fill. Never found a partner. I think the chances of finding a partner that is willing to pay close to reasonable compensation knowing that they are going to take on a huge gauranteed contract are practically zero.
I've pushed for a trade down but my argument has always been that the reason trades don't happen, is because a reeruned draft chart makes it impossible to trade out of the spot. I've yet to hear a compelling argument as to why top 5 trades demand so much compensation. The only argument is "because the chart says so."

If trades are constantly getting nixed from teams that are pushing for a trade-down, then that means the draft chart is off. End of story.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:50 AM   #11
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I've pushed for a trade down but my argument has always been that the reason trades don't happen, is because a reeruned draft chart makes it impossible to trade out of the spot. I've yet to hear a compelling argument as to why top 5 trades demand so much compensation. The only argument is "because the chart says so."

If trades are constantly getting nixed from teams that are pushing for a trade-down, then that means the draft chart is off. End of story.
I think another reason that trades at the top of the draft seldom happen anymore is the outrageously high gauranteed contract that teams will have to take on for a player that has never played a down in the NFL. I think if there were some type of rookie cap or slotting that the NBA employs, that high pick would be worth a lot more. But a long as the contract puts an NFL n00b amongst the highest paid players in the league, it loses value.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:23 AM   #12
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The other thing this fan base is obsessed with...trading down.
If a taker is available, a well prepared team would do well to at least seriously consider it in ALMOST every case.
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he'd just be another Thigpen
he's a white cassel slider
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:24 PM   #14
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Maroney my ass man, the Pats had over 2000 yards as a team rushing they were in the upper part of the league.
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Old 02-03-2009, 02:07 AM   #15
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Why does every draft thread always turn into...

Trade Down
These QB's aren't any good
The draft chart is dumb
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