Let's talk about the Chargers

[Hammock Parties]

#Chargers Justin Herbert - High ankle re-aggravation. Walking w/full weight = no fracture. Lean towards playing Wk 4. MRI Mon

#Chargers Joey Bosa - Lean towards missing Wk 4. Re-aggravation often worse than initial injury

#Chargers Rashawn Slater - Pec for OL = heavily involved in blocking. High risk of missing Wk 4

#Chargers Joe Alt - Ankle. O-line often able to play the next wk but severity varies. Prob MRI pending

#NFL Injury Updates:#Lions Sam LaPorta - Video suggests low ankle. X-ray + returning = no fracture. Lean towards playing Wk 4. Practice = key#Chargers Justin Herbert - High ankle re-aggravation. Walking w/full weight = no fracture. Lean towards playing Wk 4. MRI Mon

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— Deepak Chona, MD. SportsMedAnalytics (@SportMDAnalysis) September 23, 2024

[Hammock Parties]

Not at the period of Chargers practice open to media

Justin Herbert (ankle)
Rashawn Slater (pectoral)
Junior Colson (hamstring)
Joey Bosa (hip)
Derius Davis

Joe Alt (knee) was working off to the side with a trainer w a brace on his knee.

[gordonelloyd]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's always been the issue with the Alt pick.

Not that he isn't going to be a damn good player - he will be. A probable All-Pro.

But Nabers was a better pick there.

When they picked Alt I breathed a sigh of relief because I really didn't want to deal with Nabers in this division for a decade. That kid is going to be spectacular.

Both nabers and alt are likely to be all pro. Nabers will certainly be the more spectacular.

But I think for the kind of team Harbaugh is trying to build Alt was the better pic. But I also agree that doesn’t make nearly as much sense if they let Slater go next year.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by In58men

If the Chiefs are really “that team” to beat, we need to win

FYP

That's it. It's that simple.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by gordonelloyd

I don’t see how anybody can deny that the chargers have done better this year under Harbaugh than most expected. So he needs to get some credit for that. They also need to get credit for drafting Alt.

That doesn’t mean that he is better than Andy or that they are better than our Super Bowl team, which is going to repeat

But it’s a little bit weird how some posters here won’t recognize progress by other teams and when someone mentions such progress when it is obviously true, it is taken as disrespecting the chiefs somehow. And then the hate comes out.

I think Harbaugh is an upgrade at HC. It's just that media likes to try to crown them before they have done anything. That's probably what makes many Chiefs fans disrespect them.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Never forget that he was the QB of the Colts the year they beat KC in the playoffs because Lin Elliot forgot how to kick.

Yeah, I hated that guy. But really, it was our stupid conservative HC, crappy QB, and trash kicker.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by FANATIC

Well nobody is at full strenght. I think the NFL is very competitive. The Cap works. So to answer your question... there are no elite teams. Just a few Elite Qbs. To me teams are average and the best teams have a couple of elite players. KC has Mahomes and Jones. Dont really see any other elite guys on KC.

Kelce (even though he's not playing like it yet), Rice, McDuffie, interior OL?

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

You mean the guy with 26 years of experience as a head coach (and Mahomes/McNabb/Vick) has a better resume than a guy with four years of experience (with Alex Smith/Kaepernick)?

You're seriously arguing that Harbaugh is comparable (or even possibly better) than Reid because he has less experience? Because he had a few pretty good years once?

All he said is we have a coaching advantage. Not that Harbaugh sucks. Really weird statement to take issue with. We do have the advantage and it is not arguable.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by gordonelloyd

Both nabers and alt are likely to be all pro. Nabers will certainly be the more spectacular.

But I think for the kind of team Harbaugh is trying to build Alt was the better pic. But I also agree that doesn’t make nearly as much sense if they let Slater go next year.

The team Harbaugh is trying to built is foolish when he has a $200 million quarterback he can't move off of.

You MIGHT be able to pull that off if you're Shanahan and you have a loaded roster around your dirt cheap QB, but Herbert's contract will be a cap impediment that prevents them from building that super-team around him.

So he HAS to be developed and used as a force multiplier. And giving him a premier LT (Slater) and solid RT with arguably the best young WR in football is a far smarter path forward than what Harbaugh did.

What Harbaugh did is a classic case of a coach being dogmatic and building his team around his system instead of tailoring his system to fit his team.

It's the mark of a mid-wit head coach who thinks he's more accomplished and intelligent than he is.

And I, for one, welcome it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by gordonelloyd

I don’t see how anybody can deny that the chargers have done better this year under Harbaugh than most expected. So he needs to get some credit for that. They also need to get credit for drafting Alt.

That doesn’t mean that he is better than Andy or that they are better than our Super Bowl team, which is going to repeat

But it’s a little bit weird how some posters here won’t recognize progress by other teams and when someone mentions such progress when it is obviously true, it is taken as disrespecting the chiefs somehow. And then the hate comes out.

Have they?

Did anyone expect them to lose to the Panthers? And you MAYBE would've had a 50/50 split on them vs. the Raiders, but really, they were playing a mediocre Raiders team with a brand new QB at home - why SHOULDN'T they have won that game? That was no shocker. The Chargers entered that game as 3 point favorites.

No - I don't think it's correct to say they've done better than anyone expected. They've won 2 games they were supposed to win and dropped a game to the Steelers that, had you said they were playing Josh Fields at QB, you'd have expected them to win as well.

Thus far, they're exactly who we thought they would be. I'm not sure why I should be impressed or surprised.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

You're seriously arguing that Harbaugh is comparable (or even possibly better) than Reid because he has less experience? Because he had a few pretty good years once?

All he said is we have a coaching advantage. Not that Harbaugh sucks. Really weird statement to take issue with. We do have the advantage and it is not arguable.

No, that's definitely not what I'm arguing.

Do you think Tom Brady gave his team a massive advantage over Mahomes because he had far more accomplishments and experience?

Not sure what's so controversial about what I'm saying.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Yeah, I hated that guy. But really, it was our stupid conservative HC, crappy QB, and trash kicker.

And I don't even blame the kicker - he sucked BEFORE we put him in that position.

If you send ME out there to kick field goals and I miss them, it ain't my fault when I miss them, it's your fault for sending me out there to do something I've not demonstrated an ability to successfully do.

I respect Marty for everything he did to get the Chiefs back to relevance, but HE'S the reason he never got a ring. For as much as people want to chalk that record up to bad luck and circumstances, Marty had nobody to blame but himself.

A 5-13 playoff record isn't an accident. I mean folks to this day bag on Nate Kaeding for missing a 54 yard field goal (to tie) and just ignore the fact that Marty's had a 14-2 football team that gave up 11 points in the last 5 minutes of that game to put themselves in the position to need a damn long field goal to even tie it up, where they'd have probably lost to Brady and Gostkowski in OT anyway.

Marty cut his own throat many times over and people tend to find scapegoats for him.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If you send ME out there to kick field goals and I miss them, it ain't my fault when I miss them, it's your fault for sending me out there to do something I've not demonstrated an ability to successfully do.

Nobody has self accountability anymore...

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

No, that's definitely not what I'm arguing.

Do you think Tom Brady gave his team a massive advantage over Mahomes because he had far more accomplishments and experience?

Not sure what's so controversial about what I'm saying.

This is not Brady v Mahomes. This is Brady v, I don't know, Matt Ryan? And yes there's a clear advantage.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Have they?

Did anyone expect them to lose to the Panthers? And you MAYBE would've had a 50/50 split on them vs. the Raiders, but really, they were playing a mediocre Raiders team with a brand new QB at home - why SHOULDN'T they have won that game? That was no shocker. The Chargers entered that game as 3 point favorites.

No - I don't think it's correct to say they've done better than anyone expected. They've won 2 games they were supposed to win and dropped a game to the Steelers that, had you said they were playing Josh Fields at QB, you'd have expected them to win as well.

Thus far, they're exactly who we thought they would be. I'm not sure why I should be impressed or surprised.

yeah if anything i expected them to look better than they have under harbaugh. they still look incredibly mediocre, they’ve just played a couple of shitty teams so they have a decent record.