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Old 04-27-2024, 11:38 AM  
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Old Today, 09:18 AM   #271
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Rookie TE's don't really happen.

It's ok, just let him learn.
I would not say that's completely accurate. They can succeed right away in the right situation. Here's a few from last year and over the last 5 years.

Sam Laporta: 86 rec, 889 yards, 10 TDs
Dalton Kincaid: 73 rec, 673 yards, 2 TDs

Kyle Pitts: 68 rec, 1,026 yards, 1 TD (how the hell did he only have 1 TD?)

Evan Engram: 64 rec, 722 yards, 6 TDs

Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, and Irv Smith all had pretty decent rookie years in 2019, as well.

Historically, you're correct. But over the past years, that has become a position that more and more teams are focused on in college, and it's translating to better "ready to play" TEs coming into the leage.
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Old Today, 09:58 AM   #272
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I would not say that's completely accurate. They can succeed right away in the right situation. Here's a few from last year and over the last 5 years.

Sam Laporta: 86 rec, 889 yards, 10 TDs
Dalton Kincaid: 73 rec, 673 yards, 2 TDs

Kyle Pitts: 68 rec, 1,026 yards, 1 TD (how the hell did he only have 1 TD?)

Evan Engram: 64 rec, 722 yards, 6 TDs

Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, and Irv Smith all had pretty decent rookie years in 2019, as well.

Historically, you're correct. But over the past years, that has become a position that more and more teams are focused on in college, and it's translating to better "ready to play" TEs coming into the leage.
Most don't do what LaPorta did and come in fully formed as an in-line TE, though.

Move TEs do seem to be a little more common than they used to. Makes me think Bowers may be more impactful as a rookie than Mayer was. But Mayer had a pretty solid season as a rookie 'traditional' TE in his own right.
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Old Today, 10:08 AM   #273
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Old Today, 10:13 AM   #274
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I would not say that's completely accurate. They can succeed right away in the right situation. Here's a few from last year and over the last 5 years.

Sam Laporta: 86 rec, 889 yards, 10 TDs
Dalton Kincaid: 73 rec, 673 yards, 2 TDs

Kyle Pitts: 68 rec, 1,026 yards, 1 TD (how the hell did he only have 1 TD?)

Evan Engram: 64 rec, 722 yards, 6 TDs

Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, and Irv Smith all had pretty decent rookie years in 2019, as well.

Historically, you're correct. But over the past years, that has become a position that more and more teams are focused on in college, and it's translating to better "ready to play" TEs coming into the leage.
In fairness most of the above were first round picks or high seconds and a lot on bad teams without a lot of competition at that position.
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Old Today, 10:21 AM   #275
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I think it's also reasonable to assume we won't have Kelce for 2-3 games this season.

And I think it's possible that Wiley goes from 3rd to 1st on the depth chart if that happens. Not likely, but if you want bulk snaps at a move TE position, I'm thinking you may be better served to move Wiley into that spot with Gray staying at 2.

If Kelce stays healthy I'm thinking you may see 250 yards and a couple scores on 15-20 catches. Nothing much, but a couple little flashes here and there. But if Kelce goes down, there's a chance you see him go out there for like 6 catches for 85 yards and a tuddy in a game.

I really think Reid will turn this kid into a 1,000 yard receiver someday.
Also think the team would really like to keep Kelce on a snap count. The days Kelce plays 90% of the offensive snaps during the regular season are over. Guessing if Wiley comes on it would allow them to keep Kelce at 75%. A fresh Kelce in the playoffs is hard to stop.
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Old Today, 10:32 AM   #276
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Most don't do what LaPorta did and come in fully formed as an in-line TE, though.

Move TEs do seem to be a little more common than they used to. Makes me think Bowers may be more impactful as a rookie than Mayer was. But Mayer had a pretty solid season as a rookie 'traditional' TE in his own right.
Bowers is probably going to do fine, the Raiders don't have all that much and yes he's probably going to essentially be a slot.
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Old Today, 11:03 AM   #277
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Bowers is probably going to do fine, the Raiders don't have all that much and yes he's probably going to essentially be a slot.
12 personnel should be pretty effective for them.

Though they probably should've held onto Jacobs if they intended to feature it. Hard for me to get two worried about Zamir White/Alexander Mattison.
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