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Old 08-10-2024, 08:23 PM  
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Hollywood Brown injury update



Story from the 2019 Tyreek injury: https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/...nt-dislocation




Last edited by Dante84; 08-13-2024 at 02:12 PM..
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Old Today, 12:53 PM   #301
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Ran a great route to open up space for the Worthy TD. So the narrative that "he doesn't know the playbook" is way over the top imo.
What I said has nothing to do with "not knowing the playbook" it has to do with field awareness and the proper way to run a route.
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Old Today, 01:01 PM   #302
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He ran a simple drag route and Mahomes looked off the S to get him to bite down and open up Worthy. The announcers even explained it during the game.
Well firstly it was Wentz who threw the ball and secondly he had three guys around him so let's give the guy some credit on how he sold the route fgs
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Old Today, 01:02 PM   #303
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What I said has nothing to do with "not knowing the playbook" it has to do with field awareness and the proper way to run a route.
And he showed that for the Worthy TD
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Old Today, 01:52 PM   #304
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Kind of disagree. If he can go week one let him go. It's not a hammy that's going to re pull. It's a dislocation. If its good it should be as good as its probably going to get. Running down the field isn't going to make it just pop out again.
It'll be a range of motion issue, IMO.

In all probability, they'll have it isolated for a couple weeks and kept stationary. That sort of thing always creates a bit of a 'locked up' effect within the joint. And yeah, they'll work the shit out of that to get it freed back up but there's still a pretty good chance that he'll deal with stiffness, etc... that just keeps that arm from working like he expects it to.

If your hands are just a little slower coming up than you anticipate, that's gonna lead to drops and interceptions, etc...

If he's not at full go, don't send him out there.
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Old Today, 02:08 PM   #305
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It'll be a range of motion issue, IMO.

In all probability, they'll have it isolated for a couple weeks and kept stationary. That sort of thing always creates a bit of a 'locked up' effect within the joint. And yeah, they'll work the shit out of that to get it freed back up but there's still a pretty good chance that he'll deal with stiffness, etc... that just keeps that arm from working like he expects it to.

If your hands are just a little slower coming up than you anticipate, that's gonna lead to drops and interceptions, etc...

If he's not at full go, don't send him out there.
Right I get that, but if he's good like he is good to go. You don't give it another week just because. It's not an injury that's going to just re occur like a hammy or something that lingers. If its healed and he's done his rehab there's no point in saying **** it give him till October 1 or whatever.
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Old Today, 03:09 PM   #306
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Right I get that, but if he's good like he is good to go. You don't give it another week just because. It's not an injury that's going to just re occur like a hammy or something that lingers. If its healed and he's done his rehab there's no point in saying **** it give him till October 1 or whatever.
Oh sure.

I just don't see that as terribly likely. Even on the short side of that kind of injury, you're looking at 2-3 weeks until healed and another 2-3 until you get full range of motion back, IMO.

I just don't think it's terribly likely at all. Remember that for a dislocation to happen, SOMETHING has to fail. Either a bone has to break or ligaments have to stretch something awful.

The idea that it just popped out and you can pop it back in and take some Advil for the discomfort defies basic human biology.

Shit doesn't pop out of joint without something being taxed beyond a breaking point. I suspect he has a shitload of really stretched out stuff going on in his chest/neck/shoulder area to have allowed the amount of laxity necessary for that kind of dislocation.

So it's gonna be immobilized for long enough for all that stuff to calm down. And really, no amount of medical care can speed that along - ligaments heal on their own timeline. If you're going to avoid risk of re-injury, they have to be ALL the way healed and the fastest way to do that is keeping it stationary. Which will likely freeze something up.

The idea that there's no additional risk of re-injury with a dislocation ignores the associated sprains/strains that were necessary to pop that sucker out of there. Yeah, there's a risk of re-injury if he's not back to 100%. And WRs get landed on a lot so you've gotta make sure that's completely sound.

I just think we're being way way WAY too optimistic with the idea of a 3-4 week timeline. 4 seems wildly optimistic to me, to be honest.

But we shall see...
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Old Today, 03:12 PM   #307
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My gut says Brown's injury isn't as bad as Tyreek's was, so Brown could be back in 4-5 weeks, not six. Not that it matters, but I'm kind of making a bet with myself on how it turns out.
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