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Old 03-07-2023, 03:04 PM  
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Old 03-08-2023, 09:50 PM   #211
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Old 03-09-2023, 11:41 AM   #212
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How eloquently people speak is an extremely bad barometer of intelligence.
The rest of his body of work outside of the lines, including his combine test scores, lead that way as well. It's not JUST that he talks dumb. All of the evidence suggest that he actually IS dumb.
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Old 03-09-2023, 12:25 PM   #213
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The rest of his body of work outside of the lines, including his combine test scores, lead that way as well. It's not JUST that he talks dumb. All of the evidence suggest that he actually IS dumb.
Eh. I haven't seen anything that suggest that Daniel Jones is that much smarter in game situations. I'd guess Lamar's football IQ is maybe average at best. He's never going to take that next step and become top-10 in that regard, and his lack of arm strength just exaggerates the problem. So he's automatically limited to a pretty elementary passing game, that by necessity requires a strong running game to pull the safeties down and puts CBs on islands. In the NFL, that's not terribly difficult to scheme against if the QB in question can't throw to the boundaries.
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Old 03-09-2023, 01:13 PM   #214
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Meh. as I recall, Marino didn't do that well on the Wonderlic, but he was smart enough on the field.
Marino had a 15... Vince Young was a 6, I believe.
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Old 03-09-2023, 01:15 PM   #215
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Marino had a 15... Vince Young was a 6, I believe.
What was Vince's offense like in college?

"Shotgun snap throw right"

"Shotgun snap run left"
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Old 03-09-2023, 01:28 PM   #216
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What was Vince's offense like in college?

"Shotgun snap throw right"

"Shotgun snap run left"
I looked at a sample Wonderlic once... and I don't understand why it is given to athletes or why it should matter.
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Old 03-09-2023, 01:32 PM   #217
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Marino had a 15... Vince Young was a 6, I believe.
13, 15, who cares? The point is that on the field, Dan was smarter than most QBs.
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Old 03-09-2023, 01:34 PM   #218
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13, 15, who cares? The point is that on the field, Dan was smarter than most QBs.
Agree.
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Old 03-09-2023, 01:47 PM   #219
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I disagree but to me Jones as a low level starter and Brisset as a top end backup are quite similar.

So this contract is stupid.

If you don't have a guy that can win a Super Bowl don't pay big $$$.
You're right, I'm definitely overstating Brissett but they are extremely even. If I can get Brissett for 7-8 million or Jones for 40, I'm taking Brissett.
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How eloquently people speak is an extremely bad barometer of intelligence.
Not its not a bad barometer, there are exceptions to the rule sure but intelligence and speaking intelligently go hand in hand for the most part. Typically if you sound stupid, you are stupid.
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Old 03-09-2023, 02:20 PM   #221
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You're right, I'm definitely overstating Brissett but they are extremely even. If I can get Brissett for 7-8 million or Jones for 40, I'm taking Brissett.
For sure.
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:56 AM   #222
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My point is, if a black QB had the EXACT SAME STATS as Daniel Jones, the Giants, and every team in the league, except maybe Cleveland, tells Daniel Jones to kick rocks.

He threw 15 TD passes last year. Russell Wilson threw 16 and people are saying he had one of the worst QB seasons ever.

If Jacoby Brissett put up the exact same stats and won the same games, and lost the same games, for the Giants, they would offer him $20 million a year. But, Daniel Jones is white, and is getting $40 million a year.

If any black QB not named Mahomes or Hurts had those same stats, they would not even come close to that contract.

Just like people like Gase getting hired twice, and fired twice, or white college coaches with no NFL experience getting hired before Eric Bienemy gets hired once, sometimes it really is just about race.

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No ****in' way I'm paying him shit. You can get middling QB play for pennies on the dollar. There's no need to pay a lousy QB. These teams just keep doubling down on stupid.
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