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#46 |
World's finest morphius
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Don't be the reason that any of the kids quit the sport.
Good luck man, should be interesting coaching kids that young. Youth soccer was bad enough and that is mostly herding cats. |
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#47 |
Prestige Worldwide
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Spring Hill, KS
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#48 |
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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I literally went through this with 5th and 6th graders this year. I'd never coached & they had never played together before. We had 7 games, started off 0-5, gained momentum and got better each week. Then we absolutely smashed the last 2 teams we played. Despite it not being a "success" of a season at 2-5, boy did it feel good to see them thrive at the end. I stand by the advice of "making sure they have fun".
Offense: Keep it simple, then layer. Normal routes and runs, then add motions and reverses as they progressively understand. Install 3 or 4 plays, then add variations of the same play depending on their skills. I've got a playbook I put together; if you want to see it PM me. Defense: work on mostly fundamental skills like tackle (flag grab) drills. A big one is sideline drill, where they have to force the ball carrier to choose between out of bounds or cutting inside and get their flag grabbed. Coaching Tip: This sounds so ridiculous but its probably the best leg up I learned all season; if you have an assistant coach or parent available, make them solely responsible for any and all substitutions during games. It makes ALL the difference between plays for your own sanity. You'll never feel worse than when you snap at a bunch of children because they are ALL asking to play different positions while you're trying to get plays called. Last edited by Seanathon; 06-07-2024 at 07:29 AM.. Reason: math |
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#49 |
Prestige Worldwide
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Spring Hill, KS
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In all seriousness; have thick skin. The parents are the worst part of coaching.
Make sure the kids have fun. I have coached my boys flag/tackle teams the last 6 years. Parents put a lot of unnecessary pressure on kids these days. |
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#50 |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Was thinking about this age and how challenging it was and had a few more thoughts -
For this age I would make sure every kid gets the ball at least once each game. I used to have every kid play offense one half, defense the other. I'd bring a paper roster with list of positions for each half and we'd run through a quick meeting on it before each half started. I would keep the roster on my clipboard and put a tick next to each kid's name each time they carried the ball. I always figured if they at least got to carry it once it was one of those things they could talk about with their families after the game. Our better athletes would get the ball more because I do still have a competitive streak. But every kid at least had a chance to be the hero. (And results were often surprising.) Offense The 4 offensive plays on my sheet at that age I think were 3 run plays (RB or WR end around, etc.), and one pass. The one pass play that was a very short rollout/flood right that usually went to the center, but with other routes that were available. Defense Main thing to emphasize in addition to protecting the sidelines is to be very aggressive on pulling flags. Getting in the runner's way and grabbing the flag near the hip. You have to really preach an attitude of physicality on this. That may sound counterintuitive to flag football but if kids aren't physically aggressive you see missed flag pulls and long TDs. Get the team fired up about this and really celebrate good flag pulls. Every once in awhile we'd have a collision or a penalty for something that was a little rough, but nobody got hurt and I didn't lose my mind watching us whiff (as much). Practice We spent most of practice in scrimmage. Kid's would play the positions on offense and defense that they would be in on game day. We'd spend maybe 15 minutes doing primarily 2 drills - a flag pull drill and a handoff drill. |
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#51 |
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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I've coached soccer in that age range as well as T-ball and now coach pitch baseball. We actually just had our last game of the season last night.
4-6 is a REALLY tough age range. The attention spans are just basically zero at that point, so when you tell them to do something, or to line up, less than a minute later half of your players will be walking around or playing in the dirt or talking to each other etc. So....my main piece of advice is to ask as many dads (or moms) to volunteer to help at practice. The more adults you have to keep order the better. Otherwise you're honestly just screwed bc unless you're an asshole, you're not going to be yelling at the kids when they don't listen. That's just what kids do. That being said, it's pretty damn fun too! I told my son I'm willing to coach until sports get more serious, then I'm only helping out and not running the show. But you WILL see them get better through the course of the season and it's pretty rewarding. So no specific flag football recommendations but in general just make sure to accept as much help as you can and have a beer or two after practice and laugh about how frustrating the previous hour was ![]() |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
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#53 |
Time to get hit!
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Springfield, MO
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From a parent of a child who played flag football, I would suggest a flag pulling drill. Maybe have one or two kids run down the center of the field, and have a few at a time run after them to try to pull the flag. The biggest problem my kiddo had was getting flags. He had the speed and would catch up to a player in no time, but he was afraid to reach in to grab the flag.
And I definitely agree with clean snaps and hand offs. Overall, just remember to keep it simple. It's hard to add on to plays that they haven't mastered yet. |
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#54 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Had our first scrimmage yesterday and was very discouraging. The other team somehow has at least 2-3 more players, and their kids dwarfed mine. Totally unfair considering you can block, and it was a shitshow to say the least.
It blows my mind that they would allow so much physicality but not try to evenly distribute the kids that are monsters. My kids were all intimidated and more concerned with running away from the blockers twice their size than getting to the ball carrier, and I can't say I blame them. |
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#55 |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
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So they allow full-contact blocking? That's insane.
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#56 |
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Join Date: Feb 2019
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Let them all play....**** the score and worrying about winning
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Needs more middle fingers
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
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#58 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Since I don't know all of the rules, I was trusting the word of the more experienced coach on the rules.
Needless to say i will be having a talk with him if he let his big ass kids beat up on mine while breaking the rules. This league is a joke. I'm finally getting rules Monday when the first game is next Saturday. |
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#59 |
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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Hate to hear that. We scrimmaged Talequah, Ok last year before the season (5th grade). Cherokee kids are notorious for hitting their full height by about 14. They usually aren’t more than 5’10” fully grown. But we had our biggest kid at 5’ flat lined up against 6+ Cherokee kids who were 5’5” ish. It really just kind of set the tone for the season. Any time we’d be lined up against even one big kid our line just couldn’t perform.
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