Rasslin is YES! YES! YES!

[Reaper16]

Last thread has well over 10,000 replies. Its body is breaking down like The Undertaker's. Seeing as we might have crossed the threshold into a new era in the business, here's a fresh new thread.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by New World Order

The model Rick Martel

Ravishing Rick Rude.

[New World Order]

If you count overall look, promo and in-ring wrestling who is the best of all-time?

I’m going macho man

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by New World Order

If you count overall look, promo and in-ring wrestling who is the best of all-time?

I’m going macho man

Interesting point, Bret Hart once put out a list where he said you rank wrestlers from 1-10 in categories, promo, look, ring work etc

He said Macho Man is the only wrestler who he gives 10's to across the board.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by New World Order

If you count overall look, promo and in-ring wrestling who is the best of all-time?

I’m going macho man

Ric Flair

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by New World Order

If you count overall look, promo and in-ring wrestling who is the best of all-time?

I’m going macho man

Kurt Angle...

Could work ANY style and produce great matches with anyone...was over completely as a heel or face, and worked with any storyline/character given.

[Sassy Squatch]

Yep. Kurt Angle is the quintessential pro wrestler. Could play every role to near perfection, face or heel, comedy or serious, and to top it all off has actual legitimacy as one of the greatest amateurs of all time.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Yep. Kurt Angle is the quintessential pro wrestler. Could play every role to near perfection, face or heel, comedy or serious, and to top it all off has actual legitimacy as one of the greatest amateurs of all time.

The odd part is that some wrestlers are set up to be a face all the time.....and never a heel....and that has made them less famous.

Ricky Steamboat for one....John Cena for the other.....although he did have a heel time period, brief as it may have been.

Every wrestler these days has to have 2 sides of the coin and be able to flip from heel to babyface or they become just another name on the roster

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by New World Order

If you count overall look, promo and in-ring wrestling who is the best of all-time?

I’m going macho man

The only problem with Macho Man is that his persona was the same inside and out of the ring.

Even when you are a heel you have to have time to "turn it off" or you burn yourself out mentally. I think that happened to Mach Man.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Or Sting, Macho Man, Triple-H, Kurt Angle, Undertaker, Jericho. Doesn't have to be Hogan or Austin necessarily. Even that next tier had more charisma than today's roster.

I'd agree to an extent but it's better than 5-10 years ago overall.

[Sassy Squatch]

Pretty disappointing that HHH seems to have completely lost interest in the tag team division. Belts are just props for whatever faction is hot at the moment. Really odd because NXT had such a fantastic pipeline of tag teams when he was fully in charge down there.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by New World Order

If you count overall look, promo and in-ring wrestling who is the best of all-time?

I’m going macho man

Macho Man and Flair are great choices. Neither was muscled up in their primes, though Savage was in his later years. Despite that, their look was unique with their costumes and Ric's white mullet haircut. Both great on the mics and in the ring.

Austin isn't far off. His look was great with the shaved head, goatee, and black skull jackets. Arguably the best ever on the mic. Good in the ring before his injuries (maybe not a 10 though).

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Kurt Angle...

Could work ANY style and produce great matches with anyone...was over completely as a heel or face, and worked with any storyline/character given.

Kurt was a 10+ in the ring. Probably a 9 on the mic at his best (his Olympic cheater character was epic).

His look is probably an 8. Good physique but nothing spectacular in his appearance or costume.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Pretty disappointing that HHH seems to have completely lost interest in the tag team division. Belts are just props for whatever faction is hot at the moment. Really odd because NXT had such a fantastic pipeline of tag teams when he was fully in charge down there.

Rumor is the Lucha Bros. and the Motor City Machine Guns are both headed in so maybe we'll start to see it pick up...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Interesting point, Bret Hart once put out a list where he said you rank wrestlers from 1-10 in categories, promo, look, ring work etc

He said Macho Man is the only wrestler who he gives 10's to across the board.

I'd rate him closer to straight 9s, but I get why Bret would say that. It was also much easier to rate higher on the promo scale back then because so many things were taped. Still, his turn on Hogan at SNME was perfect mic work.

I also think people hand out too many 10s on that scale.

Like, if you're going for a 10 on looks and physical charisma, 1984 Kerry Von Erich is probably it, Hollywood Rock is a 10 on the mic, and 1994 Bret is a 10 in the ring.