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Join Date: Apr 2012
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49ers Brandon Aiyuk has requested a trade
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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If you swapped the two, I think Aiyuk would struggle to match his numbers, while Collins would find it easier to do so being on such a star studded offense. IMO, the season Collins had given the circumstances was more impressive that Aiyuk’s. Quote:
Maybe you’re confused from where I said “despite SOMETIMES having worse QB situations”. I mean, that should speak for itself. Purdy was 100% better last year than Baker, Watson/Flacco, Geno Smith, Derek Carr, Sam Howell, Pickett, etc. Quote:
But DK I think is a better, more talented WR than Aiyuk. Stats don’t always tell the whole story. No to Terry and lol at Olave? Have you watched these dudes play. They’re dawgs. You put any of them on that SF offense with Deebo, CMC and Kittle drawing coverage away and they’d all go crazy. Right. If you think Deebo is just a gadget guy, you don’t really watch the 9ers play. You can argue that Aiyuk is a better pure WR all day. I don’t necessarily agree with that but I’ll entertain the argument. The issue is, you can’t just hand waive the fact that Deebo is the second most dangerous WR in the NFL with the ball in his hands. That’s part of the package of being an NFL receiver as well and Deebo is a LOT better at it than Aiyuk. Plus, like others have mentioned, they lost three games in a row without Deebo last year, only scoring 17 PPG during that stretch. I think the proof is in the pudding. |
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#137 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Appanrelty many don't understand who the 49ers WR1 is, and that being versatile doesn't make their WR2 more valuable.
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#138 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Terrible comparison. Like not even remotely close to the same guy.
Tyreek started off as a gadget guy, but he had some WR qualities you either have or don't have and he developed as a route runner. Tyreek can run routes and separate consistently. Deebo can't. Tyreek is the Dolphins X WR and runs big boy routes. Aiyuk is the 49ers X, while Deebo gets schemed touches and runs mostly short to intermediate routes. |
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#139 |
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A Hypnagogic Landscape
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49ers consistently go to Kittle, Deebo, or CM in crunch time, gotta have five yard situations. That’s value. Throughout the Receiver documentary on Netflix, you get the sense Shannahan trusts those three over anyone else, including Aiyuk.
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#140 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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![]() You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Shanahan can say what he wants on a documentary specifically about Kittle and Deebo, but Aiyuk is the guy they value long term 100%. |
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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Could be. Could also be that SF runs a lot of condensed sets and the goal of those sets is to get the ball out quickly to a receiver running a short route. Also, let's not forget who's throwing the ball in SF. Purdy is a good QB, but he's not been gifted with a strong arm or great accuracy downfield. So once Aiyuk runs past a certain yard-line, he's probably out of Purdy's effective range, right? But yeah, in short yardage situations, I agree that the trio of CMC/Kittle/Deebo would be the most likely targets. Hell, I've been saying they aren't targeting Kittle enough for a couple seasons now. Regardless, if I'm the coach and the distance is 5 or less yards, hell yeah I'm throwing the ball to one of those guys over Aiyuk. That's their collective wheelhouse. |
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#143 |
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Michigan
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Aiyuk has far and away been their number 1 for a couple of seasons now. Some of that is due to injury to Deebo and some is just that he's developed into the better WR. Deebo is a good player and a chain mover but he's not in the same stratosphere as an overall WR as Aiyuk is. Aiyuk threatens all levels of the field.
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People in this thread are way off on Aiyuk. Deebo is basically a modified RB, he can't get open as a pure WR. |
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