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49ers Brandon Aiyuk has requested a trade
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Yesterday, 09:46 PM | #121 | |
In Search of a Life
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A WR1 is still more "valuable" than a WR2 that can play RB too. I think so many of you are missing this aspect of team building and roster construction. It's not debatable, Aiyuk is 100% their WR1, and you don't choose your WR2 over your WR1 all things even. If Deebo is the significantly cheaper option, then that's a reason, but not "versatility". |
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Yesterday, 09:51 PM | #122 | |
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There's not a single exec, coach, or scout that would've ever preferred Lamar over Pat at any time. There were many players, and probably even some that still would. Players have absolutely no ****ing clue in comparison to execs, coaches, and scouts. You think Kadarius Toney's opinion matters more than Veach and Reid? |
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Yesterday, 09:51 PM | #123 |
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Probably should be on the list somewhere. I think it probably points to how the player is valued by peers more than just ‘is this guy a prototypical position player?’
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Yesterday, 09:57 PM | #124 | |
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I mean, who knows how players think? Or any of these guys. Maybe it's just a function of how much primetime they get. Amon-Ra should've easily made the Pro-Bowl but wasn't selected. Only the AP paid enough attention to select him to the All-Pro first team offense. A few years ago, iirc, Mike Evans said in a presser that Jameis Winston was an elite QB. Stuff like that makes me seriously question just how discerning most players really are. |
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Yesterday, 09:57 PM | #125 | |
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Your opinion is Aiyuk is more valuable than Deebo. Nice, that’s great - don’t be such a **** about it. |
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Yesterday, 10:01 PM | #126 | |
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Yesterday, 10:16 PM | #127 | |
In Search of a Life
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Also, Virus literally said that not a single exec would choose Aiyuk over Deebo. That's why I posted that. Keep up. |
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Yesterday, 10:22 PM | #128 | |
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Decades ago, I believed that a lot of the sports journalists out there were decent evaluators of player talent. These days not so much. But they do have the benefit of not having a real stake in the players, which you can't say about their teammates. I would tend to think that GMs and scouts would have a better idea of who is better than who though. They should, you would think anyway. |
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Today, 07:41 AM | #129 | |
You gotta kill a few people
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.. though I do find that absurd. Who would put Aiyuk in their top 10 by any metric? Tyreek Hill Justin Jefferson Amon-Ra St Brown AJ Brown Ceedee Lamb Jamarr Chase Davante Adams I don’t think anyone would argue that these guys are automatically better than Aiyuk. Nico Collins, DJ Moore, and Puka Nacua all outproduced Aiyuk with worse QBs on worse offense with fewer weapons. They’re mostly younger than Aiyuk as well. Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, Stefon Diggs and Amari Cooper are all older than Aiyuk but had near-enough production despite sometimes having worse QB situations. DK Metcalf, Terry Mclaurin, Chris Olave, George Pickens, Cooper Kupp.. hell, is Aiyuk any better than Chris Godwin? Lol. Having him top 10 is crazy to me. |
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Today, 09:02 AM | #130 | |
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I like Pittman. I wanted the Chiefs to trade for him. But under even the best rankings of any kind he falls somewhere between 25 and 30 of all NFL receivers. Your definition of "alpha" is what is hilarious. The **** does that mean, catch a lot of passes? So was Michael Thomas the alpha you wanted? It's such a dumb, arbitrary term. An alpha just means WR1, out here changing whole games with his play. That's Ja'marr Chase first and foremost. That's what an 'alpha' is, if forced to use that idiotic term. |
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