Anyone watching Hardknocks?

[RunKC]

Checked out some of it tonight and wow. It’s crazy time that the Giants are just a full blown disaster. They can’t pay Saquon and then watch their divisional rival Eagles steal him even though they paid Hurts $6 million more APY as well as Devonta, AJ Brown etc.

I feel bad for Kafka being in that shithole bc they are about to clean house soon.

It’s incredible having pro’s like Veach, Andy and Spags work together and run this franchise. Also exposes why most teams aren’t good.

We really lucked out with all 3 but especially Veach. He’s gonna be here a long time unless he decided to retire when Mahomes does.

[Ocotillo]

Watching the episodes, I do question the Giants front office's processes a lot. I couldn't believe the conversation that Daboll and Schoen had just hours before the free agent signing period, it seemed like they didn't have a concrete plan until the midnight hour.

But even as bad as their offense was last year, I can't say their decision to not resign Saquon was wrong. He's a luxury item for a team with too many holes.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Checked out some of it tonight and wow. It’s crazy time that the Giants are just a full blown disaster. They can’t pay Saquon and then watch their divisional rival Eagles steal him even though they paid Hurts $6 million more APY as well as Devonta, AJ Brown etc.

I feel bad for Kafka being in that shithole bc they are about to clean house soon.

It’s incredible having pro’s like Veach, Andy and Spags work together and run this franchise. Also exposes why most teams aren’t good.

We really lucked out with all 3 but especially Veach. He’s gonna be here a long time unless he decided to retire when Mahomes does.

Why Kafka left is beyond me. Yes he's an OC, but why not just ride it out here until a good OC position opens?

Oh well.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Why Kafka left is beyond me. Yes he's an OC, but why not just ride it out here until a good OC position opens?

Oh well.

He can always come back.

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by Rausch

He can always come back.

That was my thought too. It's not like he cut all ties to Reid and Veach when he left. In fact, as much as I hated losing him when we did, it might work out very well for us to have him cutting his teeth in NY before he comes back to have Andy retool him.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Rausch

He can always come back.

Unfortunately, I think we're going to be stuck with Nagy for a very long time.

[ThaVirus]

Yep, oddly enough my lady makes me watch all of these football shows. I don’t give two shits about a shit franchise like the Giants though I will admit that these BTS docs do give an interesting perspective into the biz.

During the FA madness period they had this bald white dude in the room periodically wheeling and dealing. He’s just like “I think we’ll need to make it $7 per and 2 years. That’ll get it done.” Then Schoen’s like “OK, get it done”. That bald lackey did that two or three times and I was just wondering who tf he was. Man was getting shit done, doing more than the GM and AGM.

Also, they’ve showed some negotiating with the Panthers and I’m not surprised that franchise is a dumpster fire. They were somewhere, I want to say it was the Senior Bowl, and a bunch of the GMs were bullshitting on the sideline. The Panthers guy is like “Do you wanna give us something for Burns? Maybe two 1s……. Or a 1 and something?” I couldn’t believe the guy undercut himself literally within 3 seconds of letting Schoen know Burns was available for trade.

I don’t pretend to be a sales expert but you have to know to keep your mouth shut there.

Then, months later when they were on the phone finalizing the deal, the Panthers guy asks for an additional 7th to be tacked on and Schoen is just like “Our daughters are besties, dude, and we need players too. Let’s just leave it the way we had it.” and the Panthers guy dropped it as quickly as he brought it up

Just incompetent all around.

[KCUnited]

Once they paid Jones they were doomed. Moving on from Saquan was the right move when Schoen said "we're not paying Jones 40 million dollars to hand the ball off to a 12 million dollar RB". But he probably should be fighting harder to get out from Jones before they wind up in purgatory draft territory

They're in total pre-Ried/Mahomes Chiefs territory where its we need more fatties and a moar weapons around a poop QB

I did like the QB interviews with Daboll. That was good insight into how those go. Where he made Jayden Daniels repeat a play call then later in the interview asked Daniels a personal question then interrupted his answer and said "repeat that play call back to me again". Stuff like that is pretty cool to see

Overall I'm enjoying this season before the focus shifts more to the players and we're getting to see more of the offseason process with front office types even though its the Giants

[Jerm]

I've been watching it, think it's been really good so far...I really enjoy these behind the scenes inside baseball looks at franchises.

The Chiefs love has been great to see lol...they slobbered all over Jones in the first episode and then we had Worthy running at the draft. Thanks Giants haha.

Joe Schoen completely lost me when he said in the first episode that he believes in Daniel Jones and basically can build around him....I get it, you have to say that yadda yadda yadda but I'd push back and say....do you really have to say it?