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Old 03-28-2024, 08:39 AM  
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***Official 2024 STL Cardinals Thread ***

I'll update the rosters and opening day lineup when its officially released.

2024 Opening Day roster.
Spoiler!

For the new Cardinal fans that joined the Planet since last year, here are some of the historical threads going back to 2006.

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Old Today, 11:06 AM   #451
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Why not?

If Mozeliak hired him, he said SOMETHING that Mozeliak liked. And if Mozeliak is in favor of it, I'm opposed.

Mozeliak is completely ****ing inept. If he hired Bloom then Bloom is also going to be bad at his job.
I just feel Bloom got a raw deal in Boston where his hands were tied by John Henry not wanting to be an all-out superpower like the Red Sox were in the Theo Epstein days, but Bloom was still being held to the same standard as the superpower Red Sox. The Red Sox have been somewhat of a surprise this year and Bloom's homegrown talent is a big part of it. Bloom was probably hoping for an Andrew Friedman in LA situation in Boston and instead, he got a situation similar to the Cubs right now with Tom Ricketts where they're trying to half-ass it and win.
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Old Today, 12:07 PM   #452
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For the record, the Cardinals pretty much mailed in day 2 of the draft. A couple of reaches and a few more guys with no ceiling whatsoever. A ton of college guys who profile as backups and organizational depth.

So they made the one pick that anyone in this thread could've made and then proceeded to take the rest of the draft off.

This organization is going nowhere until they fire every single person in it.
I looked at the guy they picked at 80, and just stopped there. They have nearly no one to project from the last few drafts. For pitchers itslike they still think it is the 1980s. Soft tossing lefties with no swing and miss stuff.

They drafted a college midget at 80 whose best ceiling is a middle reliever strike thrower. They basically drafted a modern day Brad Thompson.
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Old Today, 12:18 PM   #453
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I looked at the guy they picked at 80, and just stopped there. They have nearly no one to project from the last few drafts. For pitchers itslike they still think it is the 1980s. Soft tossing lefties with no swing and miss stuff.

They drafted a college midget at 80 whose best ceiling is a middle reliever strike thrower. They basically drafted a modern day Brad Thompson.
I said Seth Maness. Potayto, Potahto.

The last couple drafts have been nothing but chasing 'fast risers' but lose sight of the fact that it's CEILING that determines if you make the bigs quickly, not floor and not polish.

Because it's not a race to AAA. Some of these 'low risk' picks may make it to AA sooner than the other guys, but they're going to stall there.

You get fast risers by taking someone like Gavin Williams instead of Mike McGreevy. McGreevy was taken because he was 'polished' and would get to the bigs quickly. But then he hit the high minors and got smoked because he just isn't very good.

Meanwhile Gavin Williams is a 6'6" planet of a human being taken a few spots after McGreevy who was HUGELY projectable and is already a guy who looks like a #2 starter for a good ballclub.

This team just has everything wrong.
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Old Today, 12:19 PM   #454
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I just feel Bloom got a raw deal in Boston where his hands were tied by John Henry not wanting to be an all-out superpower like the Red Sox were in the Theo Epstein days, but Bloom was still being held to the same standard as the superpower Red Sox. The Red Sox have been somewhat of a surprise this year and Bloom's homegrown talent is a big part of it. Bloom was probably hoping for an Andrew Friedman in LA situation in Boston and instead, he got a situation similar to the Cubs right now with Tom Ricketts where they're trying to half-ass it and win.
Sure.

Bloom got screwed. If the Dodgers or Rays had hired him - Hell if the Pirates or Reds had hired him - I'd presume they'd made a good pick.

Mozeliak hired him. So **** him.
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Old Today, 01:58 PM   #455
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Sure.

Bloom got screwed. If the Dodgers or Rays had hired him - Hell if the Pirates or Reds had hired him - I'd presume they'd made a good pick.

Mozeliak hired him. So **** him.
I'm just happy to see your not holding on to any bias.
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Even Chaim Bloom?
Chaim? **** yes you fire some one with that name
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Old Today, 03:21 PM   #457
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Cardinals finally took their first Prep player...in round 19.

Putting them in the same company as the Colorado Rockies.

Lovely.

These guys are just ****ing lazy. If you don't draft any high school players, that's a whole bunch of games you don't have to bother scouting. And a fair bit of money ol' Dollar Bill can save on travel and scout salaries.

It would mesh well with their unbelievably stupid decision to close down their Latin Academy several years back...
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