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Old 03-01-2024, 10:42 AM   #2
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Another Non Sequitur.
How is it a non sequitur when you’re praising Ryan Poles for all these good decisions outside of Edmunds and I remind you that he made one of the worst trades of the last few years?

Do you know what a non sequitur is? And why are you capitalizing it?
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Old 03-01-2024, 10:46 AM   #3
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How is it a non sequitur when you’re praising Ryan Poles for all these good decisions outside of Edmunds and I remind you that he made one of the worst trades of the last few years?

Do you know what a non sequitur is? And why are you capitalizing it?
Ok, they lost a 2nd round pick.

When you add in all the extra capital they already acquired, not sinking any ships.

Veach had a horrible first draft in KC and the Frank Clark trade and the Hitchens FA signing were pretty gross early moves.

None of those stopped Veach from making better moves elsewhere.

Very simple minded mindset you have there.
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Old 03-01-2024, 10:51 AM   #4
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Ok, they lost a 2nd round pick.

When you add in all the extra capital they already acquired, not sinking any ships.
What capital are you talking about that they had acquired BEFORE they traded what turned out to be the 32nd pick in the draft for Claypool?

The trade was labeled an overpay when it happened and it looks horrific in hindsight.
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Old 03-01-2024, 10:55 AM   #5
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What capital are you talking about that they had acquired BEFORE they traded what turned out to be the 32nd pick in the draft for Claypool?

The trade was labeled an overpay when it happened and it looks horrific in hindsight.
So what? No GM bats 1.000

They have added more draft capital than they lost overall.

Poles is doing well so far.

If the standard is that a GM can't make a mistake then Veach sucks too.
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Old 03-01-2024, 11:02 AM   #6
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So what? No GM bats 1.000

They have added more draft capital than they lost overall.

Poles is doing well so far.

If the standard is that a GM can't make a mistake then Veach sucks too.
What don’t you understand here?

You went out of your way to praise him. Fine. You then went out of your way to say the only recent mistake he made was signing Edmunds. I reminded you that he also traded for Claypool which was much worse. You then pretend like I’m having some debate about how good of a GM he is when instead I’m just pointing out that you have a glaring omission when you’re complimenting him on his track record.

And fwiw - I think the Carolina trade last year was more the stupidity of that franchise than the shrewdness of Poles.
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What don’t you understand here?

You went out of your way to praise him. Fine. You then went out of your way to say the only recent mistake he made was signing Edmunds. I reminded you that he also traded for Claypool which was much worse. You then pretend like I’m having some debate about how good of a GM he is when instead I’m just pointing out that you have a glaring omission when you’re complimenting him on his track record.

And fwiw - I think the Carolina trade last year was more the stupidity of that franchise than the shrewdness of Poles.



Sure, back away now.


Anyways, back to the thread topic.
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What don’t you understand here?

You went out of your way to praise him. Fine. You then went out of your way to say the only recent mistake he made was signing Edmunds. I reminded you that he also traded for Claypool which was much worse. You then pretend like I’m having some debate about how good of a GM he is when instead I’m just pointing out that you have a glaring omission when you’re complimenting him on his track record.

And fwiw - I think the Carolina trade last year was more the stupidity of that franchise than the shrewdness of Poles.
IF Carolina took CJ and he performed the same he did for the Texans I think it would have been a good trade for them.
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So what? No GM bats 1.000

They have added more draft capital than they lost overall.

Poles is doing well so far.

If the standard is that a GM can't make a mistake then Veach sucks too.
Right or wrong Poles job evaluation comes down to getting the QB decision right. Chicago fans will monday morning QB his decision and it bette be right.
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How is it a non sequitur when you’re praising Ryan Poles for all these good decisions outside of Edmunds and I remind you that he made one of the worst trades of the last few years?

Do you know what a non sequitur is? And why are you capitalizing it?
He's extra reeruned today.
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