Potential 1st round Targets

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

There is always ammo. If you have a guy that falls to 15-16 in the draft that you feel is a franchise LT and a team is willing to take your first this year and next, then you go get that player IMO. I have no issues with spending 2 low firsts on pillar positions.

I think you and I danced around a similar analysis at LT last season. You got to "Mid 20s is the latest you can find starters" and I think I got to "10 is about as late as you're likely to find SAFE starters..."

I hated the idea of a trade up to 16. I didn't see a notable drop-off from about 10 to 40.

I just can't see myself being willing to use two 1st round picks on the 4th best OT in this class and that's likely what you're looking at in the mid-1st, no? Alt? Sure. Fashanu, yup. But man, then you're looking at probably Latham and Fuaga, right? Am I happy giving up 2 first rounders for either of those? Certainly not Latham (don't think he has the feet for this system). Maybe Fuaga. If I were pretty confident that Mims could make the transition to LT maybe, but that's still a little scary given his inexperience. And then you're in the Fautanu/Guyton range and there's no way I'm giving up that much for those guys.

I'd have to sell myself on Latham's feet, Fuaga's length or Mim's inexperience and man that's a tough sell for that kind of draft capital.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think you and I danced around a similar analysis at LT last season. You got to "Mid 20s is the latest you can find starters" and I think I got to "10 is about as late as you're likely to find SAFE starters..."

I hated the idea of a trade up to 16. I didn't see a notable drop-off from about 10 to 40.

I just can't see myself being willing to use two 1st round picks on the 4th best OT in this class and that's likely what you're looking at in the mid-1st, no? Alt? Sure. Fashanu, yup. But man, then you're looking at probably Latham and Fuaga, right? Am I happy giving up 2 first rounders for either of those? Certainly not Latham (don't think he has the feet for this system). Maybe Fuaga. If I were pretty confident that Mims could make the transition to LT maybe, but that's still a little scary given his inexperience. And then you're in the Fautanu/Guyton range and there's no way I'm giving up that much for those guys.

I'd have to sell myself on Latham's feet, Fuaga's length or Mim's inexperience and man that's a tough sell for that kind of draft capital.

Latham is a pure RT. so no. Fuaga is also a RT. No. Mims is just raw clay. No, I wouldn't go that high for him. I like Guyton in a move to LT and far more than most. I might go get him. A little left to be answered there yet for me. I definitely don't think he's near there for us though, its more a question of going up that high for him. Suamataia I'd go up a bit for him maybe to 22. He isn't there when we pick IMO. I'm working on my 2.0 mock, so you'll get a projection of where I'm feeling things right now.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Latham is a pure RT. so no. Fuaga is also a RT. No. Mims is just raw clay. No, I wouldn't go that high for him. I like Guyton in a move to LT and far more than most. I might go get him. A little left to be answered there yet for me. I definitely don't think he's near there for us though, its more a question of going up that high for him. Suamataia I'd go up a bit for him maybe to 22. He isn't there when we pick IMO. I'm working on my 2.0 mock, so you'll get a projection of where I'm feeling things right now.

Wow.

No way. I'm just not that hard up for a guy like Suamataia. Again, now we're at like the 6th best OT.

I'll spin the wheel and take my chances. Because if OTs get blasted like that, someone else is going to slide. 30 guys can't go top 20.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wow.

No way. I'm just not that hard up for a guy like Suamataia. Again, now we're at like the 6th best OT.

I'll spin the wheel and take my chances. Because if OTs get blasted like that, someone else is going to slide. 30 guys can't go top 20.

Exactly. Whether it's OT or WR, an unexpected run (in terms of quantity) should only lead to an unexpected player falling into our range at the very least (see McDuffie).

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wow.

No way. I'm just not that hard up for a guy like Suamataia. Again, now we're at like the 6th best OT.

I'll spin the wheel and take my chances. Because if OTs get blasted like that, someone else is going to slide. 30 guys can't go top 20.

There's only basically 4 first round quality LTs in this draft. If anyone slips it's going to be RTs or extremely raw guys. I have Mims on my radar more than I do guys like Guyton or Suamataia being there at this point.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kccrow

There's only basically 4 first round quality LTs in this draft. If anyone slips it's going to be RTs or extremely raw guys. I have Mims on my radar more than I do guys like Guyton or Suamataia being there at this point.

This is again why I'm barely entertaining OT in R1. I think what'll be left will be incredibly raw. I think whatll be left at WR is a day 1 starter and contributor. I think we fix the hole that we can imo.