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09-23-2020, 09:47 AM | |
Cynical Misanthrope
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Oops! Why Tyrod Taylor didn’t play
This is embarrassing. Wonder if LAC gets a new doctor.
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09-23-2020, 10:38 AM | #46 | |
In Search of a Life
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It’s not about being right about my evaluation. It’s about trusting it over one game. I was right in the end about Baker, so what does that say? |
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09-23-2020, 10:40 AM | #47 | |
Needs more middle fingers
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Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes Deshaun Watson Lamar Jackson Carson Wentz Kyler Murray Joe Burrow looks pretty good through two games. And to be fair to Mayfield and Darnold, those guys play for franchises that are historical trainwrecks. |
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09-23-2020, 10:40 AM | #48 | |
Time For Your Wake Up Call !!!
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One game is just .... one game. It takes time to qualify as the face of the franchise. But I will add that he very possibly gives them more upside that Taylor does, but again, it's just 1 game. Many people and pundits were claiming the same about Mahomes after 1 game, but he had to do it game after game to prove he was the real deal. Once he became so automatic, it made the the people that claimed he was so awesome feel awesome. We all felt Pat was going to be special, but it took time to prove it. |
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09-23-2020, 10:40 AM | #49 | |
SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS
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This isn’t like Mahomes because Herbert did literally nothing eye popping. It was your typical shit — Mahomes made 5+ plays in his debut that dropped your jaw. The kid might be alright but it’s far from a sure thing. |
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09-23-2020, 10:42 AM | #50 | |
'Tis my eye!
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Let me put it this way: With Herbert, as it is with all young QB's I see, I want to actually be impressed before I start saying I was impressed. The guy played a solid game. He wasn't spectacular and outside of one throw, he wasn't even impressive. He was "good". And then we have to hear the talking heads saying that his back corner throw to a WIDE OPEN WR was so hard, like Herbert is the only rookie that could make that throw. The hyperbole is just silly. Lots of guys in the NFL can make that throw. Doesn't mean they're going to be successful long term. And that has a lot to do with how I evaluate Watson and Jackson, especially Jackson. It gets really old listening to how Jackson is the best QB in the NFL when anybody with eyes can clearly see he isn't. It's unfortunately just a symptom of the world we live in, especially with the media. One is not really allowed to say anything neutral or ambivalent. Everything has to be highly polarized. A guy is going to be great or he's going to be a bust. Nah, I haven't seen anything from Herbert yet that suggests either of those things is true. |
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09-23-2020, 10:43 AM | #51 | |
Needs more middle fingers
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And again, this isn't about crowning someone, but instead evaluating all we can evaluate, which is 1 game. That 1 game, was a good 1 game for a rookie's 1st start. So what's the problem? And yes, you and a lot of CP members do in fact latch onto your pre-draft analysis and it follows you through said players career, which is why so many on this forum can't, or took a long time to, give the credit deserved to Watson and Jackson. |
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09-23-2020, 10:44 AM | #52 |
Time For Your Wake Up Call !!!
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09-23-2020, 10:44 AM | #53 | |
In Search of a Life
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I know you are just going to brush it off, but I’m rarely wrong about QB’s I trust my evaluation. Sorry, but I’m not going to say anything beyond “he looked good for a rookie making his first start”, because I’m still as skeptical as I was when I watched the tape. |
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09-23-2020, 10:45 AM | #54 | |
'Tis my eye!
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Deshaun Watson is great for stats. Loser mentality. Pouts. Holds onto the ball too long. Definitely not a top tier QB. Carson Wentz can't even stay on the field. And for now, I'm just not going to address Lamar Jackson. Out of that list, Patrick Mahomes is on a HoF trajectory and you simply can't argue otherwise. Kyler Murray looks very promising. The rest of those guys have HUGE question marks of one kind or another (outside of Jackson, who still has question marks of his own). |
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09-23-2020, 10:48 AM | #55 |
In Search of a Life
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And @ Baker’s story not being written yet.
He sucks and if you can’t see it at this point, I don’t know what to tell you. Darnold is a guy that’s in an awful situation, but Baker has great weapons, a great running game, and a solid OL. He is who he is at this point. |
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09-23-2020, 10:52 AM | #56 | |
Needs more middle fingers
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And yeah, he did have some "wow" throws. The throw to the corner of the end zone was an excellent throw that was on the money, open or not. Shitty QB's miss that throw all the time. And the throw to (Ekeler?) down the sideline was an excellent throw. The throw to Keenan Allen, over the defenders arm while getting hit, that wasn't a great throw? GMAFB. This is just CP hating on any QB not named Mahomes, like always. |
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09-23-2020, 10:53 AM | #57 | |
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09-23-2020, 10:53 AM | #58 |
'Tis my eye!
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09-23-2020, 10:54 AM | #59 |
'Tis my eye!
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09-23-2020, 10:54 AM | #60 |
'Tis my eye!
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This is exactly what I'm talking about.
Zero tolerance at all for reservation or hesitation. You MUST either hate him or love him. There's no in between. I'm done arguing about it. I've said all I need to say. |
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