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Chris Jones threatens to Hold Out
Well shit.
UPDATE 7/12/20: Things are looking good!
UPDATE 7/14: Looks Done!
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07-01-2020, 03:47 PM | #151 | |
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You strike while the iron is hot. This year is different, teams will not have much time to gel and we will be bringing back a championship team mostly intact. I like the strategy. |
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07-01-2020, 03:51 PM | #152 | |
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It's not 'just for cap space' it's for 'Chris Jones'. Chris Jones will be more important to this team over the next 1-5 years than Watkins, Sorensen and LDT combined. |
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07-01-2020, 03:54 PM | #153 |
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You have a better chance of running it back having Jones instead of Watkins, LDT and Sorenson.
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07-01-2020, 04:09 PM | #154 | |
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The way it stands, we still have them and also Jones if he will lower himself to play for another ring for a measly 16 million bucks. This team is loaded. |
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07-01-2020, 04:12 PM | #155 | |
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Your position is that the Chiefs should continue to pay 4 different guys more than they're worth so that Chris Jones can take 75% of what HE'S worth on the open market? You're essentially calling Chris Jones greedy for being unwilling to subsidize his teammates paychecks. In effect, JONES is the one that is overpaying for those guys because it's money he'd be getting but/for their inflated deals. And that's...okay? You're cool with calling Jones greedy because he sees this team keeping guys around who aren't worth their checks while simultaneously telling him they aren't going to pay him what he'd otherwise be capable of earning? That's odd... |
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07-01-2020, 04:27 PM | #156 |
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I love Chris.
If either Miami or Jacksonville are willing to offer both of their 2 1st rounders in the 2021 draft, you'd have to listen. Imagine Veach having a draft with THREE 1st rounders, with 1 likely being top 10. Like, dear God. That's the kind of move that sets us up (more than we already are) to be a 5 year dynasty with Pat at QB. |
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07-01-2020, 04:32 PM | #157 | |
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When did I say Jones was greedy? First, you say- I am "essentially" calling him greedy- then you double down on that and say I am "cool with it" . It is not My position- this is what the Chiefs have decided to do. I only disagreed when you said Veech is shortsighted wanting to win another SB with this loaded team that has great chemistry instead of breaking them up for cap relief. BTW I have always been on the Keep Jones bandwagon- but think it would be a horrible move if he holds out. |
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07-01-2020, 04:33 PM | #158 |
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Hopefully he starts rapping like Bell.
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07-01-2020, 04:36 PM | #159 |
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07-01-2020, 04:36 PM | #160 | |
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LDT and Sorenson are good role players. |
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07-01-2020, 04:40 PM | #161 | |
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Yep, I was one of them until he balled out this year in huge games. He is a gamer and I will never say a bad word about him again. The guy gets it and is a tough, badass player. |
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07-01-2020, 04:41 PM | #162 | |
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07-01-2020, 04:45 PM | #163 | |
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If healthy, Mahomes will get you in the playoffs. Every. Single. Year. Shitty defense? If he has enough weapons he'll still take you to the AFC Championship and just about win the ****ing thing. No running game? Still won a Super Bowl. Month-plus injuries to his top speed WR, LT, all while the defense had a billion new starters attempting to work through a new defense and new coaches? 12-4 and a 2 seed (and an eventual Super Bowl). We're not the Kansas City Royals. We don't play baseball. We don't need to stock up and sell the farm once every 8-10 years and be mired in mediocrity the rest of the time. Our "down" years are still playoff years, and even in some of those "down" years we can't be counted out to make a magical run if things gel just right. The idea of striking while the iron is hot is a bit irresponsible, because I'd rather have a decent chance at winning a Super Bowl into the extension years of Mahomes' career than trying to go all in now but have to look like the Seattle Seahawks after Russell's big money deal. Going for all the marbles in a particular year is great and all, but if you miss on that opportunity (and it does happen-- it's the NFL) THAT'S how guys like Aaron Rodgers get their careers wasted. |
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07-01-2020, 04:49 PM | #164 |
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Yeah, Jax is likely going to be picking top 3, and probably have their hearts set on Trevor Lawrence.
Miami, on the other hand, has an extra 2nd in 2021. Round 1: Their own pick Round 1: From Houston Round 2: Own Round 2: From Houston I doubt we'd be eager to move him in the conference, and while I also doubt they'd part with both 1sts, I can envision a scenario where we get the earliest 1st and the earliest 2nd, which is less exciting. |
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07-01-2020, 04:53 PM | #165 | |
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Having the best team or talent STILL doesn't guarantee dick. I'll trade a year w/ a 50% shot at a SB for 2 years w/ a 40% shot at the SB every time. Gimme more bites at the apple over fewer larger bites. Sure, there's a bit of a gambler's fallacy issue there, but we have the ultimate force multiplier under center. By any reasonable measure the Chiefs should've lost that SB but then Mahomes did Mahomes shit and that was all she wrote. That possibility will be there. So I don't feel any desperate need to push my chips into the center. |
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