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He made the obvious right choice in 2013 w/ Fisher. Is it his fault that draft was tragically awful? No, no it is not. Ford, LDT and Fulton were very good picks in '14. We'll always have a bad taste in our mouths over how Ford's tenure ended, but FFS, look at what most of the teams around us did. Relative to his peers, the Ford pick was excellent. Peters, Morse, Conley and Nelson is a very good first 4 picks of '15 and I'd imagine few did better. '16 yielded Chris Jones, Demarcus Robinson and Tyreek Hill. But hey, that's only 2 guys that are considered top 5 in the sport at their positions - who cares? '17 he executed the trade for Mahomes. Seriously - what in the actual **** are you talking about? I won't try to debate Dorsey vs. Carl because I think they both did outstanding jobs and won't loudly argue w/ ranking either ahead of the other. But saying "Dorsey sucked ass in KC" is just facially ridiculous. He was, at worst, good over his period in Kansas City. In his 5 years he drafted, what, 9 Pro Bowlers? And acknowledge it or not (you won't) he was instrumental in the acquisition of Kelce, Hill, Jones and yes, Mahomes - all of whom could easily end up with legitimate HoF cases by the time their careers are over. Carl Peterson was the GM for 20 drafts - Dorsey for 5. And you're honestly going to try to use a count of HoFers as your barometer? Especially when there's a solid possibility that Dorsey comes out ahead in 5 years of where Peterson was over 20. |
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Fisher? You have to be kidding me. That's a Reid selection all day long, same with Kelce. It's been documented time and time again that Chris Ballard did all of the legwork on Marcus Peters. Fulton and LDT are definitely Reid selections. His mother attended the same college as LDT in Canada! So basically ANY offensive lineman is an Andy selection, period, and there's no way you're going to convince me otherwise. The Buffalo trade was NOT executed by Dorsey. For ****'s Sake Dude, McDermott and the rest of the Bills coaching staff and front office are basically Reid's children! He brought them up, trained them and in McDermott's case, fired them, too. There's no way that trade goes down like it does without Andy Reid's relationship with those guys. Quote:
In hindsight, Dorsey should never have been the hire. He and Reid obviously clashed on personnel, something that hasn't happened since Brett Veach has become the GM. And Dorsey didn't help his reputation in Cleveland, either. Maybe he hit on Nick Chubb and the jury's still out on Mayfield (although those deliberations are certainly siding against him at this point) but I just don't believe he brought anything "special" to the table. Without Reid, Dorsey would have never become an NFL GM. |
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05-29-2020, 05:35 PM | #4 | |
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Veach was a part of Dorseys team. Dorsey was the leader. Any good GM needs good scouts. |
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I don't believe for a second that Dorsey had "Final Say" over anything, especially offensive lineman or Kelce or Mahomes or even Hunt for that matter. Quote:
There's not a ****ing chance in the world that Reid wouldn't have chosen Mahomes had Dorsey wanted to go elsewhere with the pick. Are you serious or just seriously stupid? That man was not, in any way shape or form, passing on Mahomes because Dorsey didn't like him. That's insanely ludicrous. So, let us all know what happened in Cleveland, since you're a fan of that team, too. |
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IF there ever was an exception for violating this rule it would be for the "The Fresh Prince of Hellaire". He is the perfect back for this offense and adds more options for play calling than Williams or any of our other backs for sure. But I totally agree with you 100%.
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