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Old 05-29-2020, 05:22 PM   #2
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Veach should be number 1 in my book. I get that he took over a good situation, but look at our record in the playoffs since he took over. Look at the improvement in the defense in 1 offseason of cap hell.

No way in hell is Marty 1B. Reid has created separation there. Reid and Stram are the greatest coaches in franchise history...by a lot.

Kelce should be higher than 8. I’d have him ahead of Priest and Charles. Montana at 3 seems high too.
Veach #1? Why? Because he came into a great situation that allowed him to overpay for a few players and win a SB?

He's been good so far but one year as a GM doesn't make someone #1.. That's crazy.
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Old 05-29-2020, 06:43 PM   #3
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Veach #1? Why? Because he came into a great situation that allowed him to overpay for a few players and win a SB?

He's been good so far but one year as a GM doesn't make someone #1.. That's crazy.
(Glances at shiny new Lombardi trophy.)

I vote for Veach as #1.
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Old 05-29-2020, 06:49 PM   #4
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(Glances at shiny new Lombardi trophy.)

I vote for Veach as #1.
Pretty sure we had another GM when Chiefs won their first SB. You guys just don't remember him
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Old 05-29-2020, 06:57 PM   #5
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Pretty sure we had another GM when Chiefs won their first SB. You guys just don't remember him
Football was a lot different 50 years ago when Jack Steadman was running things... Lot less complicated...
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Old 05-29-2020, 07:34 PM   #6
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Football was a lot different 50 years ago when Jack Steadman was running things... Lot less complicated...
And being a GM for one season when you have Mahomes, Reid, Kelce, Jones, Tyreek and others falling into your lap is a little different than the situations Carl Peterson and other Game found themselves in.
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Old 05-29-2020, 07:42 PM   #7
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And being a GM for one season when you have Mahomes, Reid, Kelce, Jones, Tyreek and others falling into your lap is a little different than the situations Carl Peterson and other Game found themselves in.
There's no doubt that he inherited a good team. But I would counter that Carl Peterson had 20 seasons to make over his roster, and he never won a Super Bowl. If you offered a good GM a 20 year window starting with a bad team, or a two year window starting with a good team, I'd think the 20 year window would have a better Super Bowl shot. Even if it takes five years to re-create the roster, you've then got 15 shots.
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Old 05-29-2020, 07:37 PM   #8
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Pretty sure we had another GM when Chiefs won their first SB. You guys just don't remember him
Yeah, but the rules say that we're only talking about the 1989-2019 era.

I'm not really sure what the GM did in those days, though. I've read stories about guys in that era (with no agents at the time) going in and negotiating with the coach. I'm not sure when that responsibility shifted in the league from coaches to GMs.
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Old 05-29-2020, 10:56 PM   #9
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Veach #1? Why? Because he came into a great situation that allowed him to overpay for a few players and win a SB?

He's been good so far but one year as a GM doesn't make someone #1.. That's crazy.
I don’t think there is any accomplishment by any Chiefs GM on the list as impressive as what Veach did with the defense in one offseason.

The 2018 defense was horrid. Horrid enough to prevent an all time elite offense from making the Super Bowl.

He nailed practically every move last offseason on the defense. And he made a shit load of moves. It was incredible.
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Old 05-30-2020, 05:01 PM   #10
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I don’t think there is any accomplishment by any Chiefs GM on the list as impressive as what Veach did with the defense in one offseason.

The 2018 defense was horrid. Horrid enough to prevent an all time elite offense from making the Super Bowl.

He nailed practically every move last offseason on the defense. And he made a shit load of moves. It was incredible.
I agree with the article... Veach can surpass him soon, but as for now he's #2
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