***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Gupta this morning was saying 20% of covid patients are also showing cardiac damage due to the inflammatory process regardless of pre existing conditions.

Just great.

So this can have long lasting or permanent damage effects ?

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Dayze

I got a respitory infection in December; JFC....I thought I was going to die. I've NEVER been that sick. fever, aches, super dry cough. and the cough, man....once I would expell my air / breath on the cough itself, I felt like I was trying to get new air by inhaling through a straw and had a paper towel on the end of it. screwed me up for 5 days; missed work; went to the doctor for the first time in probably a decade. The cough and the breathing was the worst part

I'm wondering if I had this corona bastard. I hadn't been sick like that ...dang.....since I don't know when.

I've been there with my copd it really sucks to breath when sick. Are you having any chronic chest congestion?

[Mecca]

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[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Spott

Not going to quote this entire article, but I’m glad that I’m not eligible for this program because it looks like the stimulus money will just be taken out of next years returns, which means I’m owe even more next year.

I had to read through it about 17 times to try to digest wtf they were saying, but I don't believe that's the case.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

This is the highest number of new cases reported by a single country in one day since the coronavirus pandemic began https://t.co/9T90kG4ROt

— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) March 26, 2020

I still think at some point we are gonna reach 1k deaths a day.

By next week.

Even if the recovery rate is higher than it was earlier we are still going to hit this by next week in all likelihood.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Gupta this morning was saying 20% of covid patients are also showing cardiac damage due to the inflammatory process regardless of pre existing conditions.

Just great.

Read an article just now from the front lines at a hospital in NYC. Many are dying of cardiac arrest.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I had to read through it about 17 times to try to digest wtf they were saying, but I don't believe that's the case.

I’ve read through it a couple of times but it’s definitely not too clear on whether or not you would have to pay that money back. Seems like the one they did in the early 2000’s lowered my tax refund the next year, but that seems like a lifetime ago.

[Bugeater]

What's really disturbing about the numbers of new cases, is that they're actually the numbers from 4 days ago. We're never really going to be able to get a firm grasp of what's really going on. Ever.

[BleedingRed]

NYC Hospital numbers dropped today

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

NYC Hospital numbers dropped today

Linky?

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by RedRaider56

yet, for the 2nd day in a row the % of new cases only rose 20+% in the last 24 hours vs. the 30%+ it had been doing.



Recoveries over the last 24 hours shot up 75%!



I prefer to believe that the measures that have been put in place are working and that the rise in new cases is primarily due to the expanded testing.

How much of that is because testing is down?

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[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

What's really disturbing about the numbers of new cases, is that they're actually the numbers from 4 days ago. We're never really going to be able to get a firm grasp of what's really going on. Ever.

The only thing we can control is rate of spread and number of ventilators we have.

Those are the two factors contributing most to the total number of deaths.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Spott

I’ve read through it a couple of times but it’s definitely not too clear on whether or not you would have to pay that money back. Seems like the one they did in the early 2000’s lowered my tax refund the next year, but that seems like a lifetime ago.

As I recall from that, you did have to claim it as income, so you had to pay income tax on it. Or at least the people who have jobs that paid enough for them to have taxable income had to. And I'm sure that's still the case with this one.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

The only thing we can control is rate of spread and number of ventilators we have.

Those are the two factors contributing most to the total number of deaths.

Yep. Paying any sort of attention to new reported cases each day is meaningless. I'm not even sure why they're keeping track.

[displacedinMN]

No money for me. That is OK. Wife is still working. Getting a pay raise for the next year.
I am still, sort of working and earning money. Find out more today.


On tv today-they said if you do not file for taxes last year or this year-you will not get a check. She was begging people to file so they could get the checks.