***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

Go figure. Someone who had the Wuhan Flu and recovered just fine. Just like 99% of the rest of the people who have it. If there are hundreds of thousands of people walking around with this right now, I would say that's great news. It shows it's not near as dangerous as we're acting.

59 million people were infected with H1N1 in the U.S. If 1% of them died (which is a reasonable estimate of where the CFR will fall out), that would be 590,000 people. Swine flu killed 12,000.

1% doesn't sound like a big number, but across the entire population, it's insanely high.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

That's not the media making it seem like if someone gets the virus they are going to die that's people's choice to do that.

The media has not made it seem like anyone who gets this will die. Quite the opposite actually so stop with your exaggeration.

Uh huh...right

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

But unlike Wuhan, the Swine flu killed healthy people.

So...**** people who aren't healthy then?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

BREAKING: Universal Pictures is making some of its current film releases available on demand starting this week.

That includes The Invisible Man and The Hunt, which will be available on Apple, Amazon and other on demand services starting Friday for $19.99.

— Frank Pallotta (@frankpallotta) March 16, 2020

This is marketing strategy at its finest.

The Invisible Man's box office numbers blew away any projections so it's smart to release it on PPV because the demand is high and movie theaters are closing around the country.

The Hunt grossly underperformed but since it's been in the news lately, it's smart to release it PPV before it's an afterthought.

[eDave]

Empty shelves finally in the Tuke. No bread, water, TP and paper towels, meats, or carts. Place was packed at 10:30 on a Monday. Checkout lady said they put limits on purchases.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

59 million people were infected with H1N1 in the U.S. If 1% of them died (which is a reasonable estimate of where the CFR will fall out), that would be 590,000 people. Swine flu killed 12,000.

1% doesn't sound like a big number, but across the entire population, it's insanely high.

Swine Flu killed almost 600,000 world wide. I don't see us on a pace for 12,000 deaths at this point from CV.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by petegz28

All the shutting down is good but a lot of people are going to be losing jobs.

A large percentage of the people working on film and TV sets are unionized, so they won't lose anything from these shutdowns.

These same people will not lose their jobs once production ramps up again.

[SuperBowl4]

Originally Posted by eDave

Empty shelves finally in the Tuke. No bread, water, TP and paper towels, meats, or carts. Place was packed at 10:30 on a Monday. Checkout lady said they put limits on purchases.

Plenty of beer still unsold where I live.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

99% of the people working on film and TV sets are unionized, so they won't lose anything from these shutdowns.

These same people will not lose their jobs once production ramps up again.

What about all the people that depend on them, like waiters, bartenders, etc., etc?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by petegz28

What about all the people that depend on them, like waiters, bartenders, etc., etc?

That is not what my post was addressing, pete

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Uh huh...right

You still haven't given an example

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Swine Flu killed almost 600,000 world wide. I don't see us on a pace for 12,000 deaths at this point from CV.

Well, that's a nice gut feeling you have there.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The entertainment business is shutting down.

Production on Marvel TV shows for Disney+, Netflix, Amazon, FX along with ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox have all stopped production on their programs.

Disney+ moved up their release of Frozen 2 by three months and released the latest Star Wars film early. FF9 was postponed for a year and the new Bond movies shifted to November. Other "Tentpole" films will likely be delayed this summer.

I don't think you'll see a PPV option for movies that were schedule to released in the next few months but if this drags on to the Fall, we might see the release mechanism changed.

It is my opinion that film releases will never be the same. The studios that I've worked for (WB, Fox, Disney, MGM) have been expecting this for a decade at least and I think this will hasten it.

I like seeing movies in theaters but streaming services will just charge more for new releases and not try to drive the public into theaters.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude it's all of the. CNN, Fox, you name it. The media has scared the government officials into overreaction to a degree if you ask me.

Just relax. Remember this line:

Can’t you understand what’s happening here? Don’t you see what’s happening? Potter isn’t selling. Potter’s buying! And why? Because we’re panicking and he’s not. That’s why. He’s picking up some bargains. Now, we can get through this thing all right. We’ve got to stick together, though. We’ve got to have faith in each other.

That’s been my investing strategy since I was 21. Buy when others are panicking. It really does work.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

It is my opinion that film releases will never be the same. The studios that I've worked for (WB, Fox, Disney, MGM) have been expecting this for a decade at least and I think this will hasten it.

I like seeing movies in theaters but streaming services will just charge more for new releases and not try to drive the public into theaters.

I have no doubt that this pandemic will ultimately change the way feature films are distributed but I do think that the theaters will be packed once the restrictions are lifted because people will be craving "normalcy".

The only question that remains is when...