***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Hahah we are just stacking up the Billions in lost revenue and wages now. I hope it turns out to be nothing to worry about other than a seasonal bug. But my god people......

It'll be worse than the Great Recession in short order.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

All march madness games will be played without crowds.

Talked about it a couple pages back. Conference tournaments as well
****

I haven't found confirmation on conference tournaments

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I mean I guess everyone agrees about border wall now XD

Yeah but it is to keep Americans in so they don't infect the rest of the world who isn't ****ing delusional

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I sure hope we can look back and say certain steps were not necessary.

I trust that these big decisions are not being made on a whim.

Unfortunately I think they are being made because public of perception. Again I'm worried the panic now has over taken the damage the virus had the potential for.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I can agree with this, can we agree that maybe we are taking actions a little to drastic that in hindsight we will see as being a overraction. I don't care anymore because cat is out of the bag.

But,
Being realistic in my OPINION we might be over blowing the **** out of this.

Germany has a small % of our population. They just announced that 50-60 million could be right now, infected with the virus.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

If it was a stupid game everyone wouldn’t be taking these pro cautions. Right?

Just because you feel fine. Who says you aren’t carrying the virus?

I would never know because there's no way I can get tested. Why is that so hard to understand?

In S. Korea I could go to a drive through and get tested. We should be doing that.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Germany has a small % of our population. They just announced that 50-60 million could be right now, infected with the virus.

50 to 60 million Germans could be infected?

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Germany has a small % of our population. They just announced that 50-60 million could be right now, infected with the virus.

I think she meant eventually.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Do you not agree this is a crisis?

So you suggest everyone go get tested regardless of symptoms? Overwhelming our hospitals for tests they don't even have for people who most likely aren't infected? That's a better solution than simply...idk, washing your hands frequently and not attending a basketball game?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Unfortunately I think they are being made because public of perception. Again I'm worried the panic now has over taken the damage the virus had the potential for.

of course there is an over reaction. Maybe if they hadn’t been lied to this whole time by the government, maybe they would have remained calm. When you can’t trust the people supposedly mitigating the threat, people let the minds run to worse case scenerio.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I think she meant eventually.

Which makes me believe the Corona Virus will be a seasonal thing like the flu that settles down toward .1 mortality rate.

Time will tell, everyone pray there isnt a run on the banks, or more people will suffer than if they had gotten the virus in the first place.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So if everyone is doing what you’re doing. Why all the panic?

What panic?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

of course there is an over reaction. Maybe if they hadn’t been lied to this whole time by the government, maybe they would have remained calm. When you can’t trust the people supposedly mitigating the threat, people let the minds run to worse case scenerio.

I mean how are we going to stop China from lying? Our own government cut travel very early. I don't know what they have LIED about.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

We had it here before Italy.

In quarantine. Our community spread is 11 days behind them. 3 weeks ago Italy had 3 confirmed cases.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Which makes me believe the Corona Virus will be a seasonal thing like the flu that settles down toward .1 mortality rate.

It's not and it won't.