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Old 03-14-2019, 09:06 PM   #2
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The irony of typing out that last part when you’re talking about Verrett is priceless

You sir are ****ing clueless
Yeah and he had the nerve to type out that smart ass shit to me and couldnt give a rebuttal. **** him
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:21 PM   #3
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Yeah and he had the nerve to type out that smart ass shit to me and couldnt give a rebuttal. **** him
dude stfu. competency at 3 positions of need is more valuable than exceptional play at 1 position with trash surrounding it. i mean we just had a historically shit defense from that model jesus.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:27 PM   #4
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dude stfu. competency at 3 positions of need is more valuable than exceptional play at 1 position with trash surrounding it. i mean we just had a historically shit defense from that model jesus.
You're right we wouldnt have been able to sign a below average OLB and a guy with 4 sacks if Houston was still here
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:37 PM   #5
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We would have been able to sign absolutely jack shit.

I don't know if your dumbass is capable of recalling this far back but try. Prior to Ford being traded and Houston being released we had essentially nil for cap space. Houston has nothing to do with the 'below average OLB' or the '4 sack guy' lol. Houston was cut prior to the start of the tampering period of free agency. Why? So we could sign the star ****ing safety worth 14m per that you fail to mention exists.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:41 PM   #6
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We would have been able to sign absolutely jack shit.

I don't know if your dumbass is capable of recalling this far back but try. Prior to Ford being traded and Houston being released we had essentially nil for cap space. Houston has nothing to do with the 'below average OLB' or the '4 sack guy' lol. Houston was cut prior to the start of the tampering period of free agency. Why? So we could sign the star ****ing safety worth 14m per that you fail to mention exists.
Could have signed him by releasing Berry.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:45 PM   #7
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Could have signed him by releasing Berry.
Berry could not be released till yesterday.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:51 PM   #8
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Could have signed him by releasing Berry.
No you couldn't have. Berry is a post june 1st cut. His savings don't kick in till June 2. There's literally no cap relief till then, and by then Mathieu is off the market obviously.
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:28 PM   #9
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Could have signed him by releasing Berry.
Berry only produces $1.5M worth of savings now. They don't get the rest until June 1.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:42 PM   #10
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You're right we wouldnt have been able to sign a below average OLB and a guy with 4 sacks if Houston was still here
Veech will have to have an awesome draft to fix this shit defense.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:52 PM   #11
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You're right we wouldnt have been able to sign a below average OLB and a guy with 4 sacks if Houston was still here
Right now the trade is looking like:
Houston, Ford, Berry (if you can even count him)

Honey Badger, Okafor, Damien Wilson, Quartey-Jones, $15M still left to spend (likely 5-6 guys who will start next year)
2nd round 2020 pick (may be used for a trade up in this year's draft)
[*Edit - no comp pick for Houston]

I think the odds are pretty good that we'll be better off.
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:07 PM   #12
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Right now the trade is looking like:
Houston, Ford, Berry (if you can even count him)

Honey Badger, Okafor, Damien Wilson, Quartey-Jones, $15M still left to spend (likely 5-6 guys who will start next year)
2nd round 2020 pick (may be used for a trade up in this year's draft)
likely 3rd-4th round 2020 comp pick for Houston

I think the odds are pretty good that we'll be better off.
We're getting players like Alex Okafor for 6 million a year and you expect to get 5-6 starters for 15m? We're gonna get one brokedick CB for almost the entirety of it.
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:10 PM   #13
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We're getting players like Alex Okafor for 6 million a year and you expect to get 5-6 starters for 15m? We're gonna get one brokedick CB for almost the entirety of it.
We cut the big 3. End up with honey badger, okafor, wilson, quartey jones. For $15M, we likely end up with 1-2 more starters. Of that list, 5-6 will likely start.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:56 PM   #14
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You're right we wouldnt have been able to sign a below average OLB and a guy with 4 sacks if Houston was still here
I'm with you. I would much rather have one outstanding player, than 3 average to below average players. I don't understand this quantity over quality mindset at all, it's not how you build a championship winning team. We were bad on defense with these players before because we had one of the worst DCs in the NFL, the answer is not to gut the defense of talent and replace it with a higher quantity of lesser talented players for the same amount of money.
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I'm with you. I would much rather have one outstanding player, than 3 average to below average players. I don't understand this quantity over quality mindset at all, it's not how you build a championship winning team. We were bad on defense with these players before because we had one of the worst DCs in the NFL, the answer is not to gut the defense of talent and replace it with a higher quantity of lesser talented players for the same amount of money.
Dee Ford isn't an "outstanding" player. That's the problem. He had one "outstanding" season, one good season, and a whole lot of NOTHING the rest of his career. He has chronic back problems and has discs removed from his spine.

He's not an outstanding player. And he's certainly not worth an outstanding price tag.
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