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11-21-2018, 12:27 AM | #2 |
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2 players this team absolutely must keep. Mahomes and Hill, everyone else is debatable. I’d pay Tyreek this offseason, he might hold out anyways.
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11-21-2018, 12:32 AM | #3 |
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The value of RBs has plummeted as the passing rules have relaxed.
It's honestly kinda shitty. I would pine for 90s football if we didn't have Patrick Mahomes. |
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11-21-2018, 12:37 AM | #4 |
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Good post.
I would pay Tyreek Hill right now and be fine with it. I think he’s worth it. I’d also offer a contract to Chris Jones, but not at or higher than Aaron Donald’s. Dee Ford will probably get the tag, but if he gets a contract I’d like it to be a 3 year deal like Sammy’s. That would mean his money is off the books when Mahomes starts getting big money to the cap on his deal. Everyone else is expendable. Hunt, Fuller, Nelson, Ragland, Conley, Butker, Morse. |
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11-21-2018, 12:38 AM | #5 | |
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OBJ is legit. But the Giants are total **** even with him on there. Obviously he's not contributing to wins. Plus if we extend him after next year he'll be 30 by the end of a 5 year deal and will probably have lost a step. I'm not all about speed guys who are aging. Christ it sucks ass, but I think it's the thing to do. He's going to get PAID and I don't think it should be us. Remember when Manning had Marvin Harrison and everyone thought he was the best ever. Remember when Manning didn't have Marvin Harrison? I think Hill is better than Harrison, but looking through that list, particularly OBJ, it's tough for me to pay a guy that doesn't contribute to wins. |
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11-21-2018, 12:43 AM | #6 |
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Sammy's at 15, Houston is at 17. I can't justify wrapping up that kind of money in 2 OLB with so many games missed to injury. Jones, even if he's below Donald, is still a ****LOAD of cash. And there are games when Jones disappears. That shit just gives me heebeejeebees. |
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11-21-2018, 12:49 AM | #8 | |
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If you get 2 guys at half the salary will you get the same production? I don't know, because Hill is really ****ing special. And I don't want him to walk. I just don't want a hamstring pull away from $20M per on the bench. |
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11-21-2018, 12:49 AM | #9 |
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WADR, I don’t really think the argument of guys getting paid a lot but not winning games is good when evaluating this. It’s not OBJ or David Johnson’s fault that their teams suck. Look at the QB situations, the offensive line, etc.
Tyreek is developing into a top 3 WR if he isn’t already and he literally is the most dangerous player in football right now. He can’t get away. Watkins’ contract right now is a luxury and once he’s off the books, we basically replace his salary with Tyreek. I understand letting Ford go after tagging him for a year because of his injury history, but Jones is starting to look like a true game wrecker and that’s hard to pass up. You can’t pinch pennies with superstars. Absolutely can’t do it. I mean just look at what Oakland did getting rid of Mack and what he has done for Chicago. |
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11-21-2018, 12:53 AM | #10 |
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It’s going to be really sad if/when we have to let Kareem walk.
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11-21-2018, 12:54 AM | #11 |
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It would be like the Steelers not paying Brown and I think Hill is as good or even better. It’s just talent you aren’t gonna replace in the draft.
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11-21-2018, 12:55 AM | #12 |
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Antonio Brown’s deal has been great for Pittsburgh. Aaron Donald is off to a hell of start, as well as Mack. Chandler Jones too. Belichick paid Gilmore a ton and it has paid off. There’s a ton of positive examples too. I’m sure there’s a happy medium in there somewhere, but you can’t just let every star player walk out of fear that they’re going to have fluke injuries or whatever. Like Dwayne Bowe and Matt Cassel weren’t even very good players. We’re talking about Hill, Jones, etc. here. |
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