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Old 11-20-2018, 07:47 AM  
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Is the NFL and its refs out to "get us"?
You conspiracy nuts need to stop this crap.The game wasn't fixed. This poor old me routine on here is getting old.



The NFL loves the Chiefs and Mahomes. They are the exact team they want playing in the NFL. GMF is nothing but a Mahomes lovefest every morning. All of the NFL network shows tout Mahomes and the Chiefs offense. They flexed us into two straight weeks on SNF. Its so obvious other teams fans are bitching about the constant Mahomes/Chiefs love fest.But, they are out to get us?

Another one is the NFL doesnt want a small market winning the SB. Are these conspiracy nuts paying attention? Small markets don't matter if your the big dog. Rogers in GB, Manning in Indy, Hello....evidence you can see with your own eyes.

With all this evidence we can see on a daily basis, somehow you get the idea that the NFL wants the Chiefs to lose. That makes no sense. They are not out to "get us". The NFL is promoting the shit out of us on a daily basis. This conspiracy BS is just that, BS.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:33 PM   #166
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They are shared to a degree, you don't think LA being an important player isn't more profitable to the whole league than say Jacksonville being good is? If you tell me it's not then yea you aren't wise.
That's the whole reason for NFL profit sharing, dummy. The NFL intentionally shares the profits because some teams are more profitable. It's not a secret.
Guess what, the Cowboys are the most profitable team in the NFL by a huge margin. They've been shit for a decade. Also in the top 10 of team profits... The Giants, Redskins, 49ers. Yeah.... you can really see how much the NFL is propping up the most profitable teams.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:37 PM   #167
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I respect your posts, but this is as dumb a statement as has ever been made on CP by someone who isn't a complete ****tard.

I mean, the sports culture may not LOOK like yours, but that's because there is about 1000000x more money to be made off opening an upscale bar with $15 cocktails versus a Johnny's Tavern with Miller Lite on tap and chicken wings. Also, people's understanding of what LA is usually is decided by the 3-4 predominantly upscale neighborhoods they visit on business or vacation.
I call it like I see it. I was in Long Beach a few weeks ago and had trouble finding a sports bar - any sports bar. I had to drive to Seal Beach or somewhere, and the first one I found had no food menu and half a dozen sad-looking people in it who were clearly only there for the alcohol, so I had to leave and find another one (which in fairness was a good one). I go to Orange County regularly, and have found precisely one sports bar there so far that's what I would call legit. I ran a race in Escondido a few years ago and drove all over trying to find a sports bar afterwards. I ran a race north of downtown Los Angeles last year and could only find a pathetic one in that area. Here in Denver, I've got 10 that are within a 15 minute drive.

Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe there's a different term for them that I don't know. But all I know is that it's hard for me to find a place to watch games when I'm there, and I'm not just hanging out in one area.

And I also observe that three NFL franchises have pulled out of the area over the years. That seems notable.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:39 PM   #168
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They are shared to a degree, you don't think LA being an important player isn't more profitable to the whole league than say Jacksonville being good is? If you tell me it's not then yea you aren't wise.
Ohh, and just an FYI.... the LA Rams were actually the 6th least profitable NFL team last year. Which is actually 7 slots lower than JAX. So this is just ****ing dumb on your part.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...teams-in-2010/
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:41 PM   #169
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Ohh, and just an FYI.... the LA Rams were actually the 6th least profitable NFL team last year. Which is actually 7 slots lower than JAX. So this is just ****ing dumb on your part.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...teams-in-2010/
You just stated the problem the league wants to solve.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:44 PM   #170
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No, they just want games slanted a certain way. We got a TON of calls at home against Frisco and Denver...
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:45 PM   #171
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I call it like I see it. I was in Long Beach a few weeks ago and had trouble finding a sports bar - any sports bar. I had to drive to Seal Beach or somewhere, and the first one I found had no food menu and half a dozen sad-looking people in it who were clearly only there for the alcohol, so I had to leave and find another one (which in fairness was a good one). I go to Orange County regularly, and have found precisely one sports bar there so far that's what I would call legit. I ran a race in Escondido a few years ago and drove all over trying to find a sports bar afterwards. I ran a race north of downtown Los Angeles last year and could only find a pathetic one in that area. Here in Denver, I've got 10 that are within a 15 minute drive.

Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe there's a different term for them that I don't know. But all I know is that it's hard for me to find a place to watch games when I'm there, and I'm not just hanging out in one area.

And I also observe that three NFL franchises have pulled out of the area over the years. That seems notable.
kyzirsoze lives in L.A. and goes to a Chiefs bar that looks amazing. Packed house, people doing the chop, the works. Might be farther north than you want but worth checking out if you can.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:47 PM   #172
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Or, Peters was trying to help Mahomes by getting a Rams player off of Mahomes and then told him he was helping him and going to get him up - which is what Mahomes said. Why don't you trust Mahomes? Why are you calling him a liar?
Well.whatd you expect him to say? Obviously you've never heard a Mahomes press conference before, he keeps it professional and isn't the type who is going to be confrontational.

Even if that's what happened (it's not), the Chiefs players who were trying to pull Peters up didn't seem to think he was helping Mahomes out. Those 2 players are big dudes and you could tell Peters was trying to stay on top of Mahomes because they were having a hard time pulling him off. He's a little guy, they should have easily been able to pick him off.

So it looked to be malicious, those 2 Chiefs players seemed to think it was malicious, but that official standing right there watching the whole thing decides that it's fine?
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:48 PM   #173
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You just stated the problem the league wants to solve.
Bingo, in no way shape or form should LA ever be that low in the NFL's eyes that is a top 2 market.

And for the other comment yea, KC got a bunch of calls in the SF game, had I been a SF fan I'd have been like yea... here we go.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:50 PM   #174
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Games are definitely steered a certain way. It's too obvious.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:54 PM   #175
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You just stated the problem the league wants to solve.
JFC... Again... with NFL profit sharing, it doesn't matter. Which is why the most profitable teams currently have the shittiest record. If the NFL wanted to fix games to increase profit, they would fix games of the most profitable teams. But in fact it's the exact opposite. It doesn't support your dumb theory any way you spin it.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:57 PM   #176
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1. Contrary to popular belief and to what he NFL wants you to think, there have been fixed games in league history. On page 308 of Dan Moldea's book "Interference" he lists over 70 NFL games that have been fixed and includes the names of the 2 referees involved in fixing those games. He also lists interviews with NFL HOF players most notably KC Chiefs QB Len Dawson. He, in detail with documented facts supported by FBI documents, has interviews with NFL players and known gambling associates to uncover massive game fixing in the league. He also notes, with evidence, throughout the book that no fewer than 26 NFL team owners have or have had continuous and developing relationships with the gambling world, most notably the Rooney, Bidwill, and Mara families all getting their starts as Bookmakers for established mid-west crime families and buying their NFL franchises with moneys earned from gambling. So that in and of itself is a hypocrisy number 1 on the NFL's "lilly white" reputation.
This is why the Steelers get the treatment they do...and KC misses 3 FGs in the playoffs.
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Ohh, and just an FYI.... the LA Rams were actually the 6th least profitable NFL team last year. Which is actually 7 slots lower than JAX. So this is just ****ing dumb on your part.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...teams-in-2010/
It would seem like if they could generate interest in football in LA that the profits would go up for everyone. What's the point of moving into one of the biggest markets possible if it barely makes any money? They aren't going to be happy if they have that big ass market with tons of potential money, but only get more money than 5 or 6 other teams. They want interest in the LA teams. If those teams are losers thaen no one will give a shit, but if they have a high powered team that's putting up 50+ points in a shoot out, profits will go up.
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Dude that is not true at all, you don't think if LA is an elite level team there is way more money to be made than if I dunno Green Bay is good?

The NFL is probably having a spoogefest this year considering both LA teams, Boston, Pittsburgh, Chicago and Dallas are in the playoff races...
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Old 11-20-2018, 01:03 PM   #180
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Dude that is not true at all, you don't think if LA is an elite level team there is way more money to be made than if I dunno Green Bay is good?

The NFL is probably having a spoogefest this year considering both LA teams, Boston, Pittsburgh, Chicago and Dallas are in the playoff races...
LAR is the 26th most profitable team.
LAR is 19th in attendance.
LAR received lower TV ratings last year in LA than they did in St. Louis, while having the second best record in the NFC.

So again, your argument just doesn't work...
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