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Old 07-20-2018, 10:55 AM   #2
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because they were close to the dock, and that was the way the wind was blowing. They couldn't run cross wind otherwise they have a much higher risk of capsizing.
It shouldn’t matter how close to the dock the boat was, the captain should know the boat can’t hold up in those conditions. Why not have the wind at your back and just beach it?
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Old 07-20-2018, 10:57 AM   #3
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It shouldn’t matter how close to the dock the boat was, the captain should know the boat can’t hold up in those conditions. Why not have the wind at your back and just beach it?

No one is going to risk turning that thing around when you are 450' from the dock and 1.75 miles from the far shore.
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:00 AM   #4
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It shouldn’t matter how close to the dock the boat was, the captain should know the boat can’t hold up in those conditions. Why not have the wind at your back and just beach it?
You are aware that another duck boat was out in the exact same conditions, about 25 yards ahead, the captain of which was doing the exact same thing, and was able to ride the storm out and safely dock it?
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:11 AM   #5
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You are aware that another duck boat was out in the exact same conditions, about 25 yards ahead, the captain of which was doing the exact same thing, and was able to ride the storm out and safely dock it?
Would you say that was a smart move considering the fate of the other boat?
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:24 AM   #6
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Would you say that was a smart move considering the fate of the other boat?
I posted this above..

Hindsight is always 20/20. He had every reason to initially believe the best move was to "ride the storm out" and not slam in to the docks/shore and throw passengers around. The possibility of capsizing likely didn't even cross his mind until that last minute or two, at which point they were already ****ed. Only thing at that point that could have saved lives is his announcement to abandon ship.
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:27 AM   #7
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It shouldn’t matter how close to the dock the boat was, the captain should know the boat can’t hold up in those conditions. Why not have the wind at your back and just beach it?
How the **** would the captain know whether it would hold up or not? You think he navigates those things in 60+mph winds on a weekly basis? He probably has never gone through anything like that before and saw another boat (the exact same ****ing model) charging on ahead that ended up making. By the time he realized it was going down, it was too late.

Kindly STFO and quit being the typical internet dipshit that would have saved the day if he had been there. You weren't in that situation, never will be in that situation, so you have no ****ing clue what you're talking about.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:23 PM   #8
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How the **** would the captain know whether it would hold up or not? You think he navigates those things in 60+mph winds on a weekly basis?
I think amidst your babbling rant, you answered your own question.

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If he’s relying and watching another boat while his is in trouble, he probably doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing. There could be weight differences etc.

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Kindly STFO and quit being the typical internet dipshit that would have saved the day if he had been there. You weren't in that situation, never will be in that situation, so you have no ****ing clue what you're talking about.
I’ve had enough experience to not mess with Mother Nature on boat trips and check the weather conditions often on the Pacific Ocean. But you keep on being a keyboard warrior.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:06 PM   #9
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It shouldn’t matter how close to the dock the boat was, the captain should know the boat can’t hold up in those conditions. Why not have the wind at your back and just beach it?
Because in those waves, the second that boat tries to turn around, it's going to capsize. The duck boats are narrow and top heavy.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:30 PM   #10
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Because in those waves, the second that boat tries to turn around, it's going to capsize. The duck boats are narrow and top heavy.
This. I never thought they looked all that safe to be on the water. Maybe across a short distance for the novelty of it, but not a full-length lake tour.

There are better options to cruise the lake instead of a floating tank on wheels.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:54 PM   #11
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This. I never thought they looked all that safe to be on the water. Maybe across a short distance for the novelty of it, but not a full-length lake tour.

There are better options to cruise the lake instead of a floating tank on wheels.
Apparently England and Ireland who do the duck boat thing were close to banning them. Instead they fitted them with pontoons on each side making more stable and nearly unsinkable. They also removed the canopy something our Coast Guard and NTSB recommended but has not happened.

When I was young we went to Branson and Table Rock Lake often our Dad never took us on the Duck. Him being in the navy during WWII maybe he knew something about those boats. As kids we always wanted to but Dad never did Instead we went on the cruise ship or rented a boat.

There are very little regulations and they vary State to State I read on these things. Sort of like hot air balloon excursions any idiot can get a permit a balloon and start charging to float you into high voltage transmission lines. Still people will pay for the thrill.
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:06 PM   #12
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Apparently England and Ireland who do the duck boat thing were close to banning them. Instead they fitted them with pontoons on each side making more stable and nearly unsinkable. They also removed the canopy something our Coast Guard and NTSB recommended but has not happened.

When I was young we went to Branson and Table Rock Lake often our Dad never took us on the Duck. Him being in the navy during WWII maybe he knew something about those boats. As kids we always wanted to but Dad never did Instead we went on the cruise ship or rented a boat.

There are very little regulations and they vary State to State I read on these things. Sort of like hot air balloon excursions any idiot can get a permit a balloon and start charging to float you into high voltage transmission lines. Still people will pay for the thrill.
So thee are known fixes the boat operator could have made to make the boats safer.

This just keeps getting better.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:40 PM   #13
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Because in those waves, the second that boat tries to turn around, it's going to capsize. The duck boats are narrow and top heavy.

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