David Carr " Chiefs have higher upside with Mahomes"

[Deberg_1990]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Yet, here we are looking at the same Kansas City Chiefs offense we've seen year after year.



The Chiefs have made three playoff appearances since Reid took over as head coach in 2013, losing once in the wild-card game (2013) and twice in the divisional round (2015, 2016). I'm a fan of Reid and quarterback Alex Smith, but with the way things are right now, they'll be sitting at home while Pittsburgh and New England duke it out on Championship Sunday.

I was Smith's teammate in San Francisco for one year (2010) and I got to know him well. When the weather starts playing a bigger factor in games late in the season, he's not a guy who can make tough throws in tough conditions. He's particular and wants the football a certain way. The colder the weather the firmer the ball and other conditions make the ball slippery. It's really hard to play in inclement weather as a quarterback, yet there are some guys -- like Brett Favre -- who could grab a ball out of a bucket of water or pile of mud and hurl it downfield. But everybody's not like that, including Smith. The conditions have to be right and the running game has to be there. As we've witnessed throughout his career, Smith isn't often going to transcend an offense and win a game on huge throws -- a frequent critique. He's just not that type of quarterback.

Early in the season, we saw Smith make those big plays and the Chiefs were rolling. We've seen downfield shots slowly digress as the season's gone on, a trend that goes back to at least the past two seasons. Since 2015, Smith has been far more effective throwing the ball down field (20-pus air yards) through the Chiefs' first eight games than he has in their final eight, completing more passes (42.1 percent vs. 36.7 percent) with a better TD-to-INT ratio (8:0 vs. 2:4) and a significantly higher passer rating (124.3 vs. 63.1).

Furthermore, since Smith's first year with the Chiefs in 2013, his passer rating on pass attempts of more than 20 yards has fallen off in the second half of the season.

September: 92.0
October: 111.1
November: 63.5
Dec.-Jan.: 68.8

The Chiefs' high-flying offense started to stall after the Steelers exposed a weakness in Week 6. Pittsburgh played more zone coverage and allowed them to throw the ball underneath by respecting the ability of Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce to make things happen downfield. In addition, the run game hasn't been as effective the last five games (the Chiefs are 1-4 in that stretch), averaging 81 rush yards per game. That's 70 yards per game fewer than Kansas City put up in its first five games (all wins). In my opinion, Smith needs the run game to improve or we'll likely see him continue to struggle throwing the ball downfield as this season progresses.

I know this sounds crazy, but there's a case for Patrick Mahomes, who played well in the preseason, to start in place of Smith as the playoffs near. The Chiefs gave up a third-rounder and next year's first to draft Mahomes, viewing him as their franchise quarterback of the future. He's a gunslinger who adds another dimension in the pass game when a) the weather worsens, and b) they're trying to go head to head with the AFC's best offenses.

It's definitely possible the Chiefs could find themselves in a Nathan Peterman situation, especially if they don't handle the timing of the switch well. We don't know. What I do know, though, is we can expect the same ending to the Chiefs' story if they don't change up their cast of characters.


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[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by bigjosh

I will help you a little.

Points are what counts.

Alex Smith is the leader of the side of the ball that is supposed to score points.

The defense is supposed to keep the other team from scoring points.

It doesnt matter if the opposing team has 1500 yards in a game, if they score 9 points.

It doesnt matter if Alex Smith is responsible for 150 yards if it leads them to 31 points.

The problem is that the defense Let up 9 points four days ago, and Alex couldn't will his side of the team to 4 ****ing field goals against the 2nd worst defense in the league.

The problem is that the Steelers didnt score a single touchdown in an entire playoff game, and still won because Alex Smiths offense couldn't score 19 at home.

The biggest problem is cucks like you blaming the offensive line when the tape shows a scared bitch with happy feet in a clean pocket constantly.

The biggest problem is cucks like you blaming the receiving corps when there is a ton of video evidence showing them running wide open down the field.

I really hope we get to see the chiefs on one of these spider cam games so that the masses can see all of the wide open shots this guy misses.

I didn't hear even close to this much criticism when our defense allowed the Colts to score 45-pts in a playoff gm. Maybe because it doesn't involve criticizing Smitty?

Hmmmmmm.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I didn't hear even close to this much criticism when our defense allowed the Colts to score 45-pts in a playoff gm. Maybe because it doesn't involve criticizing Smitty?

Hmmmmmm.

Seen this post and it got me thinking about other CP ****ing morons.. Whatever happened to Penbrook? Last activity 10/24.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I didn't hear even close to this much criticism when our defense allowed the Colts to score 45-pts in a playoff gm. Maybe because it doesn't involve criticizing Smitty?

Hmmmmmm.

What did smith do to close out that game when it mattered? 3 possessions at the end for 3 and out?

Also, 4 seasons of mediocrity is not wiped out by one good performance from 4 years ago in a playoff loss. He has not once been responsible for carrying this team to a victory.

Any good/great QBs you can say "he was responsible for at least 4 wins himself this season." I cannot remember ever saying that about Alex Smith honestly.

I am happy that Smith helped bring this team back to respectability the last few years, but he has done as much as he is ever going to and his time here is done.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

See this post got me thinking about other CP ****ing morons.. Whatever happened to Penbrook? Last activity 10/24.

He threw a tantrum and left forever didnt he?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by bigjosh

He threw a tantrum and left forever didnt he?

Not sure. We need to pitch in and donate some hookers and blow to the heroic figure that motivated his departure.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by bigjosh

What did smith do to close out that game when it mattered? 3 possessions at the end for 3 and out?

Also, 4 seasons of mediocrity is not wiped out by one good performance from 4 years ago in a playoff loss. He has not once been responsible for carrying this team to a victory.

Any good/great QBs you can say "he was responsible for at least 4 wins himself this season." I cannot remember ever saying that about Alex Smith honestly.

I am happy that Smith helped bring this team back to respectability the last few years, but he has done as much as he is ever going to and his time here is done.

You just proved my point buddy. Thanks.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

You just proved my point buddy. Thanks.

And people were certainly critisizing the shit out of the defense after that game. have you been here that long yet?

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

These are stupid questions and I am not going to answer them.

The Alex Smith haters criticize him for everything and anything. It is always his fault if the offense doesn't do well. Doesn't matter how many drops, bad run game, bad offensive line play etc. Alright fine he's the leader of the offense he is supposed to take most of the blame. But when I criticize the defense for not doing against the run the Alex Smith haters defend the defense to the death.

The run defense was horrible. It allowed the Steelers to eat up the clock and get into the redzone 6-times. Our redzone D was great and 18-pts isn't a lot but don't act like our defense dominated the Steelers, they didn't, not even close.

Got to love the double standards which is common on ChiefsPlanet - The Home Of The Alex Smith Haters.

I don't have to act like anything.

I said after the game that a good offense would have scored 30+ on that swiss cheese defense, and said Brady would throw for 350 and score 30+ easily. Guys were open, the D wasn't good by Pitt at all.

What happened when a real QB went against the Steelers the following week?

Alex is a gimmick QB. He runs a gimmick offense. Option read this, screen pass that. He sucks at dropping back, reading a defense, and delivering the ball.

I don't hate him, I just think he's a timid QB who overanalyzes things and suffers from paralysis by analysis half of the time he drops back and is expected to make a post snap read and the throw the ball.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

a real QB ?


.

false narrative

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by stevieray

false narrative

Dumb post

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I didn't hear even close to this much criticism when our defense allowed the Colts to score 45-pts in a playoff gm. Maybe because it doesn't involve criticizing Smitty?

Hmmmmmm.

You also didn't hear much criticism when the Chiefs offense was rolling early in the year. Most people on Cp are happy to compliment and embrace good Alex Smith. But good Alex Smith usually shows up a few consecutive games in a year. We don't like game manager Alex Smith even if it wins games (we don't think that wins enough games that matter). And we sure as hell don't support this horrible version of Alex Smith who can't even beat a simple zone defense.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Dumb post

I agree, your point sucks.

"REAL QB"

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Not sure. We need to pitch in and donate some hookers and blow to the heroic figure that motivated his departure.

Shit I was wrong. My mistake. The Smith White Knight in this thread is the one that was leaving forever.

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

You know you are right which is why I am not going to be posting here anymore. It's been fun for the most ChiefsPlanet. Peace y'all

Go Chiefs!

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by stevieray

I agree, your point sucks.

"REAL QB"

The two words you quoted doesn't represent a point.

It represents a childish simple mind cherry picking two words and trying to grandstand on it.

Alex played like trash in the game.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Alex played like trash in the game.

the whole team played like shit.

...try harder.