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10-03-2017, 03:43 PM | #1231 |
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
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Probably the one guy who got tired of kissing his stupid ass.
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10-03-2017, 05:09 PM | #1232 | |
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If they trade for one of the Miami outfielders and sign Moose. I'll take back the fail is on the owner. |
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10-23-2017, 01:32 PM | #1233 |
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Jose Oquendo back to 3B coach for 2018. Willie McGee added to MLB staff. They need to pony up the money to land Hickey as pitching coach.
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10-23-2017, 02:31 PM | #1234 |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
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Don't care.
More idiot bait for the masses. Matheny is still the manager and ownership still lacks the commitment to build a winner. Wake me when any of that has changed. Bringing back a couple of fan favorites is an easier way to ensure that 3 million people still come through the gates than building a championship caliber team - I get it. I still don't give a rip. |
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10-23-2017, 06:19 PM | #1235 |
Consuming CP souls
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Pathetic PR move....absolutely pathetic
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10-23-2017, 06:25 PM | #1236 |
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10-24-2017, 08:39 AM | #1237 | |
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You may know more about this trend than I but it looks like teams are starting to use the pitching coaches like a defensive coordinator in football. They know all the numbers, who would be successful in a situation, when is the optimum time to pull a pitcher. Who should be brought in from the bullpen etc. If the Cardinals would go to that scientific model, the team would improve greatly. As a matter of fact, I think the first team to use AI and machine learning will win a World Series in a few years. |
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10-26-2017, 09:43 AM | #1238 |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
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Joe Girardi gets the Yankees to the playoffs a year ahead of schedule and then beats a 100+ win Indians team before putting the 100+ win Astros team on the brink of elimination. He has won a World Series in NY.
And he gets fired. While Mike Matheny remains employed. For ****'s sake, can we please stop pretending that the Cardinals have the same organizational goals as teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, Nats, Cubs, etc....? If the Cardinals care about winning at all, they'll be on the phone with Girardi right now offering to make him the highest paid manager in baseball. Go ahead and 'promote' Mike Matheny. Afterall, that's what they keep doing with guys that are doing poorly in their present roles. But no, they've given the idiots their shiny bauble for the season. Be happy, Cardinals fans - you got Jose Oquendo and Willie McGee!! And your team will sit on the sideline while yet another HoF manager gets hired after you choose to keep Mike !@#$ing Matheny instead of him. |
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10-26-2017, 10:56 AM | #1239 |
Be Kind To Your Pets
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32 Years Ago Today....
Don will never have to buy a drink in KC the rest of his life. |
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10-26-2017, 01:19 PM | #1240 |
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Mike Maddux hired as a pitching coach.
Odd that they'd talk about wanting someone more in-tune with the modern analytics movement and then hire an old-school pitching coach like Maddux. I like him, but it tells me that the rationale for firing Lilliquist was probably bullshit. I suspect he was tired of worshiping at the altar of Matheny and got scapegoated when he wouldn't fall in line. |
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10-26-2017, 02:12 PM | #1241 | |
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From the STL article below: sounds like the pitching has performed well wherever he's been regardless of talent level. Great looking resume. ---------------------------------------- Maddux has served as pitching coach for Texas and Milwaukee; he was the longtime pitching coach for the Brewers as they rose to challenge the Cardinals in the division. He also was the pitching coach for the Rangers when their pitching staff propelled them to the American League pennant and a 2011 meeting with the Cardinals in the World Series. |
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10-26-2017, 04:06 PM | #1242 |
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There is really nothing to dislike about this hire. Maddox staff's have performed very well wherever he has been.
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10-27-2017, 09:50 AM | #1243 |
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Jon Heyman's baseball notes:
The Cardinals are expected to be very active this winter after missing the playoffs two straight seasons (and being beaten out by the rival Cubs both times), and word is that in addition to a middle-of-the-order bat, they may look for one big starter and one big reliever. Jake Arrieta, Yu Darvish and Masahiro Tanaka (assuming he opts out) are the three biggest starters on the market, and it wouldn’t be a shock if they played for Arrieta. After seeing the Cubs take Jason Heyward two years ago, they took Dexter Fowler last year. They could do it again. Wade Davis and Greg Holland (once he declines his option) are the two biggest free agent relievers out there. Trevor Rosenthal, who’s having Tommy John surgery, would be expected to be non-tendered. The Cardinals interviewed Jim Hickey but might have a tough battle with the rival Cubs on that front. Hickey was Joe Maddon’s pitching coach in Tampa. |
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10-27-2017, 09:56 AM | #1244 |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
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First in line with the third best offer.
The market will be crazy again. And Mozeliak will "like the roster we have" the same as he does every year. We've seen this movie several times. Mozeliak isn't capable of actually getting the job done without Luhnow giving him an endless stream of prospects. Now that the guys that Luhnow (and Jocketty) gave him have aged, he has to depend on his own efforts and shockingly enough, Stephen Piscotty and Randal Grichuk aren't quite capable of picking up the slack. But hey, he did manage to get Jed Gyorko, so he's got that going for him... |
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10-27-2017, 10:15 AM | #1245 |
In Search of a Life
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I think they actually need 2 big bats. I'm hesitant in Hosmer at first but would be interested if he gets free from KC.
I'd imagine they're gonna have to trade for a big bat if they want one and I'm not sure who that would be |
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