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Old 01-10-2020, 12:27 PM  
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Andy and his clock management

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Old 01-10-2020, 12:30 PM   #2
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Old 01-10-2020, 12:33 PM   #3
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I'm not going to comment on mistakes in game management. My bigger issue is his intentional approach to managing games. We HAVE to better in the second halves when protecting the lead. We can blame whomever we want but everyone from Reid to mahomes (yes, mahomes) become very ineffective in those situations. Consistently.

We need to keep our foot on the gas when we're up.
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Old 01-10-2020, 12:51 PM   #4
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I havent read the article yet, but ive always thought this "he can't manage the clock" was a bunch of bullshit.

It doesn't always work out, like scoring back to back at the half. But you can usually see what he's trying to do.
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Old 01-10-2020, 01:01 PM   #5
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Every coach has their own 'clock management' strategy. Some employ metrics, some don't. And none are always right. Google Bill Belichick's worst clock management decisions, and you'll find plenty of mistakes that the great Bill made over the years.

Andy's 'issues' are only in the spotlight because he's basically the winning-est coach without a ring. So now we have this lazy man's narrative.

And even when he wins a ring, this nonsense will follow him just 'because.'
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Old 01-10-2020, 01:14 PM   #6
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Every coach has their own 'clock management' strategy. Some employ metrics, some don't. And none are always right. Google Bill Belichick's worst clock management decisions, and you'll find plenty of mistakes that the great Bill made over the years.

Andy's 'issues' are only in the spotlight because he's basically the winning-est coach without a ring. So now we have this lazy man's narrative.

And even when he wins a ring, this nonsense will follow him just 'because.'
Hopefully it does down some after we hoist the Lombardi in February.
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Old 01-10-2020, 02:52 PM   #7
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Old 01-10-2020, 03:21 PM   #8
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I'm not going to comment on mistakes in game management. My bigger issue is his intentional approach to managing games. We HAVE to better in the second halves when protecting the lead. We can blame whomever we want but everyone from Reid to mahomes (yes, mahomes) become very ineffective in those situations. Consistently.

We need to keep our foot on the gas when we're up.
This all day long. I want to see the playbook opened up all the way these next three games and show the rest of the league that we are here to stay and this is what they have to contend with for many, many years to come.
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Old 01-10-2020, 03:22 PM   #9
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Great read. Thank you for sharing.
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Old 01-10-2020, 03:25 PM   #10
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I think Reid's clock management issues are overblown. There are very few coaches better than Reid, but he's not perfect: he was too loyal to Bob Sutton, and he's much too risk-averse on 4th downs.
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:00 PM   #11
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This all day long. I want to see the playbook opened up all the way these next three games and show the rest of the league that we are here to stay and this is what they have to contend with for many, many years to come.
One pick-six on an "open-playbook" play and fans would be calling for his head. "Just run the damn ball! We were up 17! That's a 14-point swing!!!!1"
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:09 PM   #12
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One pick-six on an "open-playbook" play and fans would be calling for his head. "Just run the damn ball! We were up 17! That's a 14-point swing!!!!1"
I keep trying to remember (or find) that old quote from Gunther about the wailing and lamentations of his enemies. It would fit into this quite well.
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:16 PM   #13
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I havent read the article yet, but ive always thought this "he can't manage the clock" was a bunch of bullshit.

It doesn't always work out, like scoring back to back at the half. But you can usually see what he's trying to do.
Agreed. In very rare situations, he has made actual mistakes in clock management. More often, he just makes decisions that are different than we like (particularly with regard to burning clock with a lead). The reality is that burning clock with a lead works out a vast majority of the time. It just makes the games much less comfortable to watch.
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Old 01-10-2020, 06:33 PM   #14
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Clock management and aggressiveness are 2 different things. There's a science to clock management. A mathematical formula based on predetermined scenarios.

Aggressiveness on the other hand (keeping the pedal down) has to do with one's personality. Anyone that has played poker knows that they need to be more aggressive. But not everyone has the personality that lets them feel comfortable enough to do it.
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Old 01-10-2020, 06:54 PM   #15
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Clock management and aggressiveness are 2 different things. There's a science to clock management. A mathematical formula based on predetermined scenarios.

Aggressiveness on the other hand (keeping the pedal down) has to do with one's personality. Anyone that has played poker knows that they need to be more aggressive. But not everyone has the personality that lets them feel comfortable enough to do it.
This is an interesting take. But I agree. The confidence needs to be there.

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