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Old 02-18-2018, 03:21 PM   #2
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What we have to hope for is that Mahomes is more of a 2nd year guy than 1st year. And he honestly might be because he has been given the time and opportunity to learn the playbook and create some comfort within operating the offense. He will be going out there in 2018 solely focused on what the defense is presenting rather than whether or not he knows where his own guys should be or what they will be doing.

From a physical perspective, it is his first season. But from a mental perspective, I think he has a leg up.
I’d imagine he’s gonna be better off than not, but it’s atill his first year starting. Just gonna be things he hasn’t seen
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:39 PM   #3
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Nothing to pair up with Hill? I know Hill is amazing, but counting on Wilson, Conley, and "the rest"( actually, beyond Hill they are ALL pretty much "the rest" ), seems pretty uninspiring.

Let's look at those sweet numbers!

Hill: 75 catches, 1,183 yards, 7 TD;
Wilson: 42 catches, 554 yards, 3 TD;( extreme sadness, older than dirt, yet out-producing the youngsters minus Hill? Blech. )
Thomas: 14 catches, 143 yards, 2 TD;
Robinson: 21 catches, 212 yards,
Conley: 11 catches, 175 yards.

Under the old situation you could look at that and say, "well, that's about all you need from the WR group for a season", but that pitiful setup is dead and gone and unless all you want to do is advance the ball to its reception spot, it might be a good idea to pursue some dynamic talent to round things out opposite of Hill.
At least ONE.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:58 PM   #4
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Albert Wilson is older than dirt? At 25?
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:08 PM   #5
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Albert Wilson is older than dirt? At 25?

Jesus, I thought he was more like 35 with the way he moves.
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:08 PM   #6
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No wonder he keeps hanging around.
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:14 PM   #7
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No wonder he keeps hanging around.
Watch the Denver game with Mahomes. Dude was getting open.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:13 PM   #8
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Watch the Denver game with Mahomes. Dude was getting open.
I seriously thought the guy was a 27+(or greater) year-old vet that Reid had absconded with from Philly.

In any event, Wilson just had a "good year" for Wilson. And even though we weren't utilizing WR in terms of spreading the ball around very much, it's plain to see that outside of Hill there isn't much going on within that group.
Now we have a QB that allows us to have 2 or even 3 serious threats, much like Manning had in Denver the first year that they went to the SB and got demolished. And now, we don't have to rely on the TE to save the day because he's less than 10 yards from the LOS and open by a country mile.
At the very least, one more above-average talent at Receiver makes the KC offense absolutely lethal and VERY hard to defend. It's already an incredibly dynamic unit, but that last piece combined with some key upgrades on the Line make it damned near unstoppable.
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:39 AM   #9
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Just watched DeShon Elliott. Dude would be an instant upgrade and immediate impact. Big dude who lays the wood and had 9 INT’s in 26 games.

Makes too much sense to draft a Safety in rd 2 right now. The value will be insane.

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Old 02-19-2018, 10:28 AM   #10
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Just watched DeShon Elliott. Dude would be an instant upgrade and immediate impact. Big dude who lays the wood and had 9 INT’s in 26 games.

Makes too much sense to draft a Safety in rd 2 right now. The value will be insane.
I’d be great with that. Truth is, we’ve got nothing special there outside of Berry, and he can’t play forever.
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:12 PM   #11
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Just watched DeShon Elliott. Dude would be an instant upgrade and immediate impact. Big dude who lays the wood and had 9 INT’s in 26 games.

Makes too much sense to draft a Safety in rd 2 right now. The value will be insane.
S:
Justin Reid
Armani Watts
DeShon Elliot

DL:
Taven Bryan
Tim Settle
Harrison Phillips

Most of those guys will probably be gone, but that should be our list of targets.
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Old 02-19-2018, 05:30 PM   #12
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Just did a mock on Walkthemock.com, although a few players I tried searching for in the later rds did not show up on their rankings.

But anyways here's my latest mock from walkthemock.com for KC via Default ranking

2:22 - DT Tim Settle, Virginia Tech
He probably won't be there, but he fills a massive need on the DL, esp if the Chiefs cut Allen Bailey. Settle is a beast and can play both inside and outside on DL
3:14 - WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
I'm all for arming Mahomes w/ as much weapons as possible. IMO Kirk is a better version of Wilson, who I think we should let walk in FA, unless he's dirt cheap.
3:22 - TE Mike Gesicki, Penn St.
Harris is ****in terrible, and this guy is a huge matchup problem for any defensive back or LB...and this guy can actually catch. This guy w/ Kelce would dominate in double TE sets.
4:22 - FS Armani Watts, Texas A&M
I dont think Watts will be there at this pick, but for the sake of this mock I selected him. I also think he's a top3 safety in a very deep safety class. Safety is an obvious need and possibly a desperate need if Berry doesn't come back full strength and either Sorensen/Parker are cut, plus EB will turn 30 this yr. Watts would immediately become the 2nd best safety on this team. Dude's a player.
6:22 - FB Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
I was hoping DB Siran Neal would be available at this pick but he wasn't even listed in this draft's rankings so I couldn't select him. He was a late pick in a Fanspeak.com mock draft I did. But Flowers is Sherman's replacement. Guy can run/catch out of the backfield and is more athletic than Sherman too.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:34 PM   #13
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Just did a mock on Walkthemock.com, although a few players I tried searching for in the later rds did not show up on their rankings.

But anyways here's my latest mock from walkthemock.com for KC via Default ranking

2:22 - DT Tim Settle, Virginia Tech
He probably won't be there, but he fills a massive need on the DL, esp if the Chiefs cut Allen Bailey. Settle is a beast and can play both inside and outside on DL
3:14 - WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
I'm all for arming Mahomes w/ as much weapons as possible. IMO Kirk is a better version of Wilson, who I think we should let walk in FA, unless he's dirt cheap.
3:22 - TE Mike Gesicki, Penn St.
Harris is ****in terrible, and this guy is a huge matchup problem for any defensive back or LB...and this guy can actually catch. This guy w/ Kelce would dominate in double TE sets.
4:22 - FS Armani Watts, Texas A&M
I dont think Watts will be there at this pick, but for the sake of this mock I selected him. I also think he's a top3 safety in a very deep safety class. Safety is an obvious need and possibly a desperate need if Berry doesn't come back full strength and either Sorensen/Parker are cut, plus EB will turn 30 this yr. Watts would immediately become the 2nd best safety on this team. Dude's a player.
6:22 - FB Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
I was hoping DB Siran Neal would be available at this pick but he wasn't even listed in this draft's rankings so I couldn't select him. He was a late pick in a Fanspeak.com mock draft I did. But Flowers is Sherman's replacement. Guy can run/catch out of the backfield and is more athletic than Sherman too.
Christian Kirk is already considered a first round receiver and hes' going to blow the doors off the combine. It would take some epic dumbassery for him to be there in the 3rd.
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Old 02-19-2018, 11:09 PM   #14
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Christian Kirk is already considered a first round receiver and hes' going to blow the doors off the combine. It would take some epic dumbassery for him to be there in the 3rd.
I doubt any of those players will be available where i chose them at...except maybe Flowers. But I don't control the mock I just select as my turn comes lol.
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:08 PM   #15
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Just did a mock on Walkthemock.com, although a few players I tried searching for in the later rds did not show up on their rankings.

But anyways here's my latest mock from walkthemock.com for KC via Default ranking

2:22 - DT Tim Settle, Virginia Tech
He probably won't be there, but he fills a massive need on the DL, esp if the Chiefs cut Allen Bailey. Settle is a beast and can play both inside and outside on DL
3:14 - WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
I'm all for arming Mahomes w/ as much weapons as possible. IMO Kirk is a better version of Wilson, who I think we should let walk in FA, unless he's dirt cheap.
3:22 - TE Mike Gesicki, Penn St.
Harris is ****in terrible, and this guy is a huge matchup problem for any defensive back or LB...and this guy can actually catch. This guy w/ Kelce would dominate in double TE sets.
4:22 - FS Armani Watts, Texas A&M
I dont think Watts will be there at this pick, but for the sake of this mock I selected him. I also think he's a top3 safety in a very deep safety class. Safety is an obvious need and possibly a desperate need if Berry doesn't come back full strength and either Sorensen/Parker are cut, plus EB will turn 30 this yr. Watts would immediately become the 2nd best safety on this team. Dude's a player.
6:22 - FB Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
I was hoping DB Siran Neal would be available at this pick but he wasn't even listed in this draft's rankings so I couldn't select him. He was a late pick in a Fanspeak.com mock draft I did. But Flowers is Sherman's replacement. Guy can run/catch out of the backfield and is more athletic than Sherman too.
I like arrangement/positions of this mock. A LOT. You've addressed needs while adding another receiver to the mix.
The only thing I would sub is the TE for another O-line fatty. With Mahomes, we shouldn't have to place such a premium on the TE position, so maybe we can look for depth elsewhere? I like the addition of a FB on the tail-end of the mock as it sends a nice message that we are going to ground and pound the football. For real.
Don't know much about the players themselves, but as I said; the positions and placement are top-notch.
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