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Old Today, 10:00 AM   #31
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I'm perfectly fine with the Packers hogging the good QBs. Keep them out of the AFC, please.
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Teams can refuse to honor the contract, though. They cut players all the time.
That’s exactly how I see it. Players are not doing anything that teams are not.
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I hate it when players hold out. They sign their contracts then refuse to honor them. Teams can't refuse to honor their contracts with players, but players can refuse to honor their contracts with the teams.
Ok short bus. NFL teams can and do refuse to “honor” contracts.

“A player who signs a five-year deal has better odds of lasting one year (14.7 percent) than he does of lasting five years (13.7 percent). Players who sign four-year contracts in free agency have the exact same odds of lasting one year on the deal (23.1 percent) as lasting four years. Players on three-year contracts have roughly the same odds of the deal ending in one full season or less (34.3 percent) as they do of lasting the full term (36.2 percent). Less than half of players who sign two-year deals last two years (45.8 percent), and one-sixth don’t even make it through the first year.”
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Packers fans have been as spoiled as any fan in football. Those fans have seen nothing but great QB play (good at worst) since Majkowksi in 1992.

32 ****ing years of good QB play at worst. That franchise needs to be humbled and have a Matt Cassel of their own soon
Imagine only getting 2 SB's out of 30 years of tier 1 franchise QB play though. Man that's got to be frustrating.
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Ok short bus. NFL teams can and do refuse to “honor” contracts.

“A player who signs a five-year deal has better odds of lasting one year (14.7 percent) than he does of lasting five years (13.7 percent). Players who sign four-year contracts in free agency have the exact same odds of lasting one year on the deal (23.1 percent) as lasting four years. Players on three-year contracts have roughly the same odds of the deal ending in one full season or less (34.3 percent) as they do of lasting the full term (36.2 percent). Less than half of players who sign two-year deals last two years (45.8 percent), and one-sixth don’t even make it through the first year.”
Every single contract that's signed, both the player and the team understand the guaranteed $, the outs in the contract, the potential value etc....

Its neither an advantage to the team or player unless the player and their agent are just dumb which is possible.
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Every single contract that's signed, both the player and the team understand the guaranteed $, the outs in the contract, the potential value etc....

Its neither an advantage to the team or player unless the player and their agent are just dumb which is possible.
This. Players could get a guaranteed contract for less money. But they all opt for more money now and imaginary money later. They know the risk.
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Ok short bus. NFL teams can and do refuse to “honor” contracts.

“A player who signs a five-year deal has better odds of lasting one year (14.7 percent) than he does of lasting five years (13.7 percent). Players who sign four-year contracts in free agency have the exact same odds of lasting one year on the deal (23.1 percent) as lasting four years. Players on three-year contracts have roughly the same odds of the deal ending in one full season or less (34.3 percent) as they do of lasting the full term (36.2 percent). Less than half of players who sign two-year deals last two years (45.8 percent), and one-sixth don’t even make it through the first year.”
Curious your source on this. Got a link? Genuinely intrigued on the breakdown and want to see what else there is to be said.
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Every single contract that's signed, both the player and the team understand the guaranteed $, the outs in the contract, the potential value etc....

Its neither an advantage to the team or player unless the player and their agent are just dumb which is possible.
That’s not what short bus was saying, though.
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He should hold out and demand the Packers leave that shithole of a city.
Almost as bad as your political takes. Green Bay is basically a college town where people live, eat, and breathe Packers.
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Imagine only getting 2 SB's out of 30 years of tier 1 franchise QB play though. Man that's got to be frustrating.
Poor coaching since Lombardi left.
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A bit overreaching I'd say and reports say he's not even practicing with the team until a new deal is reached with preseason right around the corner and only one full season starting.
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Curious your source on this. Got a link? Genuinely intrigued on the breakdown and want to see what else there is to be said.
Can’t post links.

2019 Ringer article entitled “When a Guarantee Isn’t Guaranteed”.
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