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01-23-2019, 03:37 PM | #31 |
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If he signs the tag, he can be traded on the one year deal. Obviously the receiving team probably won't complete a deal for a pick unless a LTC is agreed, unless they only want him for a year for some reason?
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01-23-2019, 03:38 PM | #32 |
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I'd do that and sign Brandon Graham.
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01-23-2019, 03:46 PM | #33 |
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01-23-2019, 03:49 PM | #34 | |
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After that happens, the fat shitheads former puppetmaster slaps the franchise tag on the worthless backup because he knows the fat shithead doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and will give up an actual asset to re-acquire his 'discovery'. After putting the tag on the backup, the puppetmaster fiendishly cackles and drums his fingers together like Monty Burns. So then fat shithead calls his former puppet-master and offers to give him a second round pick for the worthless backup (who is under team control because of the franchise tag and the fact that he signed that ****ing tender before anyone had a chance to change their mind). The puppetmaster laaaaaaughs and laaaaughs and laaaughs and then sends a suitcase nuke to Arrowhead. I ****ing hate you so much, Scott Pioli. |
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01-23-2019, 03:50 PM | #35 | |
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But would someone have to work out a deal with Ford first or does that matter? |
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01-23-2019, 03:51 PM | #36 |
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01-23-2019, 03:55 PM | #37 |
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Who would trade for him?
The Packers be interested you guys think? The Browns maybe but they've got pass rushers. Falcons? |
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01-23-2019, 03:59 PM | #38 |
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01-23-2019, 04:00 PM | #39 | |
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From a purely mechanical perspective, the deal is reached AFTER the trade. There are not true 'sign and trade' deals in the NFL due to accelerated signing bonuses and things like that. The trade for Cassel was NOT contingent on an extension - the Chiefs really did give up a 2nd round pick for one !@#$ing season of that goddamn inbred one who sucks the penis. And somehow they'd have been better off by just ending it there but after that they also reached an agreement with him completely independent of any additional compensation to the Patriots. However, nobody in the world thinks that the Raiders hadn't given the Bears permission to deal directly with Mack's representation once the draft compensation was worked out. There was no way the Bears were giving up that much for a single season of Mack on the tag. So the answer is - it depends. Yes, I absolutely believe the Chiefs could get a 3rd round pick for a single season of Ford with the acquiring team being of the belief that they can either tag him again or reach an agreement later. However, the Chiefs would almost certainly prefer push an arrangement for a 2nd or higher where they would give the acquiring team a chance to go ahead and speak Fords people regarding an extension and have one hammered out that effectively goes into effect concurrently with the trade itself. Hell, the tag isn't even the only path to this - that's effectively what happened in the Alex Smith trade as well. |
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01-23-2019, 04:05 PM | #40 |
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The Chiefs can absolutely fetch more than just a 3rd round pick. Proven edge rushers have a lot of value.
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01-23-2019, 04:07 PM | #41 | |
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I was assuming it would be essentially done contractually before the trade was agreed to but kind of a hush hush thing. |
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01-23-2019, 04:07 PM | #42 | |
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Looking around the league, maybe the Bucs could be a nice landing spot with them switching to Bowles D. |
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01-23-2019, 04:28 PM | #43 |
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If I remember correctly though, the player can't be traded until he signs the tag? I remember some talk around Bell this last year being unable to be traded by the Steelers because he refused to sign the tag.
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01-23-2019, 04:31 PM | #44 |
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If they can’t get someone to puke up value for the Sack numbers he put up I will be disappointed.
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01-23-2019, 04:31 PM | #45 | |
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The Buccaneers have basically 0 pieces up front to run a 3-4 and they are going to need some proven guys to come in and produce. Bruce Arians is an old pile of shit that can't wait years for it all to come together. They need shit today. Or maybe you could swing a Dee Ford for JPP + pick. |
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