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Old 11-14-2022, 02:18 AM  
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****The Official Kadarius Toney Thread****

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The interview is interesting. Kadarius shows a lot of intelligence with his answers to the football-related questions. And a great work ethic. Think Veach was onto something with this kid.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:02 AM   #346
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You don’t get a potential WR1 on a cheap contract for a 3rd without some risk.
Of course not. That's not what I'm saying.

We got a POTENTIAL #1 for next to nothing.

Now it's time for him to actually realize that potential. The risk here isn't the trade - it was always low-to-no risk.

The risk now is depending on him for 17+ games. And you have to admit, it's a big risk.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:07 AM   #347
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Is there an example of an NFL player who "learned" how to protect his body better against these pulls and strains on his muscles and ligaments?

The only example I can think of is Keenan Allen, who ended up having a nice streak of 4, 5, 6 years or whatever of healthy play after constantly getting dinged up initially, but I think those injuries were more freak accidents and less about his sharp quick turns as a tall WR putting stress on his hamstrings and such. I don't think the situations are really comparable.

It may just be that he's Percy Harvin for us. When he's here, then great, we've got a killer playmaker. When he's not, we're just going to have to know how to win without him, because there will probably be several games and weeks when he's not in the lineup. Which... yeah, that can be frustrating, but for a 3rd round pick? I'll put up with that shit. I think most NFL teams would. Except the dumbass Giants.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:16 AM   #348
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Is there an example of an NFL player who "learned" how to protect his body better against these pulls and strains on his muscles and ligaments?

The only example I can think of is Keenan Allen, who ended up having a nice streak of 4, 5, 6 years or whatever of healthy play after constantly getting dinged up initially, but I think those injuries were more freak accidents and less about his sharp quick turns as a tall WR putting stress on his hamstrings and such. I don't think the situations are really comparable.

It may just be that he's Percy Harvin for us. When he's here, then great, we've got a killer playmaker. When he's not, we're just going to have to know how to win without him, because there will probably be several games and weeks when he's not in the lineup. Which... yeah, that can be frustrating, but for a 3rd round pick? I'll put up with that shit. I think most NFL teams would. Except the dumbass Giants.
Yep.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:17 AM   #349
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Is there an example of an NFL player who "learned" how to protect his body better against these pulls and strains on his muscles and ligaments?

The only example I can think of is Keenan Allen, who ended up having a nice streak of 4, 5, 6 years or whatever of healthy play after constantly getting dinged up initially, but I think those injuries were more freak accidents and less about his sharp quick turns as a tall WR putting stress on his hamstrings and such. I don't think the situations are really comparable.

It may just be that he's Percy Harvin for us. When he's here, then great, we've got a killer playmaker. When he's not, we're just going to have to know how to win without him, because there will probably be several games and weeks when he's not in the lineup. Which... yeah, that can be frustrating, but for a 3rd round pick? I'll put up with that shit. I think most NFL teams would. Except the dumbass Giants.
It's been Hammy's every time hasn't it? You would think pliability and strength training could lessen the issues. Maybe hes been skipping the stretches to work on his album.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:20 AM   #350
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You don’t get a potential WR1 on a cheap contract for a 3rd without some risk.
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Of course not. That's not what I'm saying.

We got a POTENTIAL #1 for next to nothing.

Now it's time for him to actually reaBelize that potential. The risk here isn't the trade - it was always low-to-no risk.

The risk now is depending on him for 17+ games. And you have to admit, it's a big risk.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:29 AM   #351
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Is there an example of an NFL player who "learned" how to protect his body better against these pulls and strains on his muscles and ligaments?

The only example I can think of is Keenan Allen, who ended up having a nice streak of 4, 5, 6 years or whatever of healthy play after constantly getting dinged up initially, but I think those injuries were more freak accidents and less about his sharp quick turns as a tall WR putting stress on his hamstrings and such. I don't think the situations are really comparable.

It may just be that he's Percy Harvin for us. When he's here, then great, we've got a killer playmaker. When he's not, we're just going to have to know how to win without him, because there will probably be several games and weeks when he's not in the lineup. Which... yeah, that can be frustrating, but for a 3rd round pick? I'll put up with that shit. I think most NFL teams would. Except the dumbass Giants.
I think the Percy Harvin comparison is pretty spot on. Injured guys just seem to stay injured.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:32 AM   #352
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I’m sure they have the ideal training schedule in place for Toney to help with his soft tissue stuff. As long as he’s healthy in January/February we’re adding to that trophy case.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:35 AM   #353
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Is there an example of an NFL player who "learned" how to protect his body better against these pulls and strains on his muscles and ligaments?

The only example I can think of is Keenan Allen, who ended up having a nice streak of 4, 5, 6 years or whatever of healthy play after constantly getting dinged up initially, but I think those injuries were more freak accidents and less about his sharp quick turns as a tall WR putting stress on his hamstrings and such. I don't think the situations are really comparable.

It may just be that he's Percy Harvin for us. When he's here, then great, we've got a killer playmaker. When he's not, we're just going to have to know how to win without him, because there will probably be several games and weeks when he's not in the lineup. Which... yeah, that can be frustrating, but for a 3rd round pick? I'll put up with that shit. I think most NFL teams would. Except the dumbass Giants.
Yeah. I’ve been calling him Percy Harvin since we got him. It’s the easiest and most accurate comp.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:53 AM   #354
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It's been Hammy's every time hasn't it? You would think pliability and strength training could lessen the issues. Maybe hes been skipping the stretches to work on his album.
Hammies can be a real bugger, some guys are just wired tight and it's not that easy to resolve. We're going to have to take the rough with the smooth. Definitely worth the trade
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Old 05-08-2023, 10:21 AM   #355
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Of course not. That's not what I'm saying.

We got a POTENTIAL #1 for next to nothing.

Now it's time for him to actually realize that potential. The risk here isn't the trade - it was always low-to-no risk.

The risk now is depending on him for 17+ games. And you have to admit, it's a big risk.
3rds are Lucas Niang, Nnadi, etc.

Very low risk, high reward move. Not really arguing much, tho.

Plus already helped us win a SB.
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Old 05-08-2023, 10:30 AM   #356
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Hammies can be a real bugger, some guys are just wired tight and it's not that easy to resolve. We're going to have to take the rough with the smooth. Definitely worth the trade
I gotta think if Van Damme can do this, more could be done to reduce Toney's hamstring issues.

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Old 05-08-2023, 10:36 AM   #357
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idc if this is a repost and im not checking. but **** yea i like the faith we got in him, it's reassuring.
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Old 05-08-2023, 10:41 AM   #358
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I gotta think if Van Damme can do this, more could be done to reduce Toney's hamstring issues.

via GIPHY

He needs to do yoga.

Had a stretching contest yesterday (pool party) and I was way more flexible than my friends.

Yoga is the way.
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Old 05-08-2023, 10:43 AM   #359
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He needs to do yoga.

Had a stretching contest yesterday (pool party) and I was way more flexible than my friends.

Yoga is the way.
For extra motivation, the Chiefs training staff could tell him that the ability to suck his own dick is a real possibility.
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Old 05-08-2023, 11:32 AM   #360
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For extra motivation, the Chiefs training staff could tell him that the ability to suck his own dick is a real possibility.
Those guys usually have to remove ribs.
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